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Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays

Posted By: Stick
Date: Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 1:45 a.m.

In Response To: Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays (Nack Ballard)

I give lessons and I cover the opening phase of the game from time to time. What I usually see is the person willing to split after 51S-62 without much hesitation but when I toss 51S-63 up immediately after you can almost feel them stop and scratch their head. They realize just how many shots they're leaving after 63 whereas with 62 it feels more secure to them. Most quickly accept and understand why it's right to run in both instances once it's explained.

David plays a lot more live bg than I do with his club in Chicago but I think his 51S-11N estimate is extremely high.

I differ on percentages for how often other plays are made but not enough to care to make you run through the numbers again. I think I notice more than most when they are/aren't misplayed because to notice you have to be sure of the right play to begin with and usually be a junkie.

At 𤾇, S is a smaller error than for money (51S-62)

What money data do you have? All I can find right now is what is on the site [R S27] /5. I'm not so sure it's a smaller error than it is for money. Are you basing that on anything other than in general when trailing those types of plays become better for the trailer? If there is a difference it's uber tiny, if.

Stick

Messages In This Thread

• Opening 51 4 ply at DMP
  David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 12:24 a.m.
  • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
    David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 12:30 a.m.
    • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
      Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 5:45 a.m.
      • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
        mtuhtan -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 6:24 a.m.
        • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
          Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 3:14 p.m.
          • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
            mtuhtan -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 6:24 p.m.
            • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
              David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 8:15 p.m.
              • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
                Philippe Michel -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 9:43 p.m.
                • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
                  Stick -- Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 1:59 a.m.
            • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
              Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 11:39 p.m.
              • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
                Stick -- Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 1:52 a.m.
        • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
          Chase -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 11:40 p.m.
          • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
            Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 11:54 p.m.
            • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
              Stick -- Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 1:45 a.m.
              • 51S-62 at 8 away 5 away Rollout
                Stick -- Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 3:31 a.m.
              • 51S-62
                Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 7 April 2011, at 4:23 a.m.
                • 51S-62
                  Turz -- Thursday, 7 April 2011, at 8:52 a.m.
                  • Money to dmp ratio, error sensitivity
                    Nack Ballard -- Friday, 8 April 2011, at 8:28 p.m.
      • Opening 51 discussion of 2nd roll misplays
        David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 5:50 p.m.
        • 51S-11N
          mtuhtan -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 6:07 p.m.
          • 51S-11N
            David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 7:39 p.m.
            • 51S-11N
              mtuhtan -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 7:51 p.m.
              • 51S-11N
                David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 8:19 p.m.
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              eXtreme Gammon -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 8:42 p.m.
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                David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 9:05 p.m.
          • 51S-11N
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 12:13 a.m.
            • A vote from the Chicago chou
              David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 1:28 a.m.
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                Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 7 April 2011, at 4:25 a.m.
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    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 4:21 a.m.
  • Opening 51 4 ply at DMP
    Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 4:30 a.m.
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    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 2:22 a.m.