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of course backgammon has been solved

Posted By: LowRayTeeng
Date: Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 6:09 p.m.

In Response To: What makes a has-been? (Chuck Bower)

i agree that backgammon has been solved

the proof is to look at the bots, not the human players

for any given roll, click a few bot buttons and what do you get ??

a accurate percentage readout of all possible moves with probabilities for their eventual win

this means backgammon has been "solved" because if you want to play the percentages, there is basically only 1 answer. of course the bots contain lots of human supplied logic that is used to evaluate the various move choices, but the fact remains, for any given b-g position and any given roll, the available moves can be accurately computed for their eventual win rates. sure, the answers are probabilities because random dice cannot be predicted, but that is the nature of dice & b-g etc, and of course, non-random streaks happen when rolling dice, ask any professional gambler, but for the long term win rate, following the percentages is the way to "win"

if b-g was NOT solved, then the bots would not agree, and bots playing bots would not all play the same and they would not have the same win rates against us puny humans

i don't understand why this is still being debated, it reminds me of reading about how all the b-g "greats" and their b-g "theories" in the 1970s were proven wrong, again & again and again, when they started playing against bots

this has nothing to do with human egos, it is a fact of b-g theory & knowledge being programmed into computers, which excell at zillions of routine calculations to verify their correctness

thanks, and yes i'm a retired computer geek with 20+ years following these silly debates about humans vs. computers

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