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What makes a has-been?

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Wednesday, 6 April 2011, at 11:59 p.m.

In Response To: What makes a has-been? (Steve Mellen)

Steve Mellen wrote:

I am not sure how anyone who thinks a .01 difference on an opening-move rollout is significant can deny that backgammon is basically a solved game.

Just because a couple of positions are well-understood doesn't mean that they all are.

Go watch a bot try to roll a 6-prime all the way around the board and then come back and tell us whether you think it has solved backgammon.

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