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What am I missing ?
Posted By: Fabrice Liardet In Response To: What am I missing ? (Fabrice Liardet)
Date: Tuesday, 12 April 2011, at 10:30 a.m.
is Fafa
score: 2
pip: 171![]()
5 point match pip: 136
score: 2
is eXtremeGammon
XGID=aB-BaaC-B---cD--bc-dA-A---:0:0:1:00:2:2:0:5:10 on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No Double Player Winning Chances: 62.77% (G: 35.09% B: 1.94%) Opponent Winning Chances: 37.23% (G: 8.58% B: 0.73%) Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 62.50% (G: 36.17% B: 2.82%) Opponent Winning Chances: 37.50% (G: 8.79% B: 0.79%) Cubeless Equities No Double: +0.693 Double: +1.322 Cubeful Equities No Double: +0.734 (-0.176) Double/Take: +0.910 *Double/Drop: +1.000 (+0.090) Best Cube action: Double / Take Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves and cube decisions: 3 plyConfidence No Double: ± 0.022 (+0.712...+0.757) Confidence Double: ± 0.031 (+0.879...+0.942) Double Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 4 hours 52 minutes eXtreme Gammon Version: 1.21, MET: Rockwell-Kazaross
What bothered me was not that I passed a 0.09 take, it was that I didn't understand it even after seeing the rollout. I thought it would be a very thin take for money, which would make a huge pass at score, because of the 30% raw take point and the fact that the opp's gammons are almost killed.
Your comments have helped me to understand the position better. As for the numbers, here is how I try to make sense of them.
With a gammon rate of 55%, the equity of winning a doubled game is 75% + 55% % 25% ~ 89%. So my cubeless take point is 29/64 ~ 45%. Assume a standard 60% cube efficiency (I don't see any reason to assume more), that translates into the me cashing at 85% instead of 75% for a perfect recube. So my cubeful take point is 85% * 45% ~ 38%.
Well, the rollout says that at 37.2% I should still take. Can I assume that the difference comes for my "too good" equity, the rare games where I shoot straight from not good enough to too good ? I have no idea how to estimate that one. The other possibility, of course, is that my 60% figure for the "standard" cube efficiency is on the low side.
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