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Research on the Rules

Posted By: Mislav Kovacic
Date: Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 1:09 a.m.

In Response To: Research on the Rules (Bill Riles)

When I play a match, win or lose, I want to walk away from the table knowing that my opponent and I both gave our very best efforts.

And this very sentence of yours is exactly the reason why Arda decided to let me correct my oversight! He wanted to beat me playing at my best.

Imagine this hypothetical situation: you're playing in the world championship finals against an extremely strong player. Suddenly, in the middle of the match this player gets very sick. You decide to give him some time to recover and tournament director allows for a longer break. After 20 minutes or so you both return to play and he is still very sick, hardly sitting at the table. The end of the match is near and tournament director requests that you finish it, despite your opponent's condition. You continue to play and your opponent makes a totally stupid oversight, something similar to what I did. You are 100% certain that it was unintentional and you are also aware of his very bad health condition which certainly caused this oversight. Do you still play by the rules and take advantage of his misfortune by not allowing him to take back his move? Would you really want to become world champion of backgammon in such way? I hope your answer is a resounding NO.

Now, I am fully aware that this hypothetical situation is quite different than the one that happened in my match against Arda.
I was "only" tired, much less of a misfortune then suddenly becoming sick, but STILL a misfortune. One that Arda did not want to take advantage of (even though he could have). And this is what fairplay is all about.

I hope this at least helps you understand Arda's (and Casper's) point of view a bit better even if you still disagree with them.

Messages In This Thread

• Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
  Mislav Kovacic -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 12:58 p.m.
  • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
    julie -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 2:30 p.m.
    • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
      Strato -- Tuesday, 3 May 2011, at 5:00 a.m.
      • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
        Michael Crane -- Wednesday, 4 May 2011, at 10:02 a.m.
  • Bravo Arda!!! *NM*
    mtuhtan -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 3:00 p.m.
    • Bravo Arda!!! *NM*
      svilo -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 11:44 p.m.
  • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
    Bill Riles -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 3:07 p.m.
    • +1 *NM*
      rory -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 3:44 p.m.
    • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
      Bob Koca -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 5:12 p.m.
      • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
        christian munk-christensen -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 5:37 p.m.
        • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
          Bob Koca -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 5:54 p.m.
          • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
            Casper van der Tak -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 6:06 p.m.
          • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
            Mislav Kovacic -- Monday, 2 May 2011, at 6:26 p.m.
            • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
              Marco Fornasir -- Wednesday, 4 May 2011, at 11:48 p.m.
              • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
                Mislav Kovacic -- Thursday, 5 May 2011, at 12:25 a.m.
              • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
                Stick -- Thursday, 5 May 2011, at 2:40 a.m.
      • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
        mtuhtan -- Tuesday, 3 May 2011, at 6:29 a.m.
    • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
      Jason Lee -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 11:57 a.m.
    • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
      Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 1:26 a.m.
  • Fairplay award goes to - Arda Findikoglu
    Marco Fornasir -- Tuesday, 3 May 2011, at 9:25 p.m.
  • Thank you folks!!!
    Arda Findikoglu -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 2:30 a.m.
    • Thank you folks!!!
      Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 3:32 a.m.
      • Research on the Rules
        Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 3:51 a.m.
        • Research on the Rules
          Arda Findikoglu -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 4:11 a.m.
          • Research on the Rules
            Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 6:01 a.m.
            • Research on the Rules
              Arda Findikoglu -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 10:53 a.m.
        • Research on the Rules
          Arda Findikoglu -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 4:12 a.m.
        • Research on the Rules
          Phil Simborg -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 5:54 p.m.
          • Research on the Rules
            Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 6:14 p.m.
            • Research on the Rules
              Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 6:23 p.m.
              • Research on the Rules
                Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 8:30 p.m.
                • Research on the Rules
                  Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 8:49 p.m.
                  • Research on the Rules
                    Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 9:12 p.m.
                    • Research on the Rules
                      Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 9:23 p.m.
                      • Research on the Rules
                        Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 9:51 p.m.
                        • Research on the Rules
                          Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 11:49 p.m.
                          • Research on the Rules
                            Mislav Kovacic -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 1:09 a.m.
                            • Research on the Rules
                              Bill Riles -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 4:40 a.m.
                              • Research on the Rules
                                Bob Koca -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 5:01 a.m.
                                • Research on the Rules
                                  Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 12:09 p.m.
                              • +1
                                rory -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 6:59 p.m.
                              • Research on the Rules
                                Henrik Bukkjaer -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 10:50 p.m.
                          • Research on the Rules
                            Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 7:14 a.m.
          • Research on the Rules
            Michael Crane -- Thursday, 12 May 2011, at 12:10 p.m.
      • Thank you folks!!!
        Arda Findikoglu -- Wednesday, 11 May 2011, at 4:02 a.m.
        • Thank you folks!!!
          Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 1:44 a.m.
          • Thank you folks!!!
            Turz -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 1:57 p.m.
          • Thank you folks!!!
            Arda Findikoglu -- Sunday, 15 May 2011, at 11:43 p.m.
  • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
    Michael Petch -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 3:21 a.m.
    • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
      Stick -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 3:32 a.m.
      • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
        Michael Petch -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 4:06 a.m.
        • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
          Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 4:07 a.m.
          • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
            Michael Petch -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 4:19 a.m.
          • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
            Michael Petch -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 4:44 a.m.
            • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
              Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:13 p.m.
              • Rules vs common practice
                mtuhtan -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:56 p.m.
              • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
                Stick -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 5:39 p.m.
                • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
                  Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 10:23 p.m.
        • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
          Michael Petch -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 4:08 a.m.
      • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
        Steve Mellen -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 12:05 p.m.
    • My Example of Fair Play -- Discretionary, but Legal (in my opinion)
      Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 5:09 a.m.
      • My Example of Fair Play -- Discretionary, but Legal (in my opinion)
        Casper van der Tak -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 8:47 a.m.
      • My Example of Fair Play -- Discretionary, but Legal (in my opinion)
        misja -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 1:25 p.m.
    • If I were host what would I do?
      Michael Petch -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 5:22 a.m.
    • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
      TarHeelFan -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 11:51 a.m.
      • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
        mtuhtan -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 12:09 p.m.
        • unfinished game
          Chuck Bower -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 1:14 p.m.
          • unfinished game
            Steve Mellen -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:01 p.m.
            • unfinished game
              mtuhtan -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:07 p.m.
              • unfinished game
                Steve Mellen -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:38 p.m.
            • +1
              Casper van der Tak -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:08 p.m.
            • +1 *NM*
              Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:11 p.m.
            • unfinished game
              Chuck Bower -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 5:26 p.m.
              • unfinished game
                Steve Mellen -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 6:30 p.m.
                • unfinished game
                  Jason Lee -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 10:43 p.m.
                • unfinished game
                  TarHeelFan -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 10:57 p.m.
                  • you mean "misread as 5-3?" *NM*
                    Chuck Bower -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 11:20 p.m.
                    • you mean "misread as 5-3?"
                      TarHeelFan -- Saturday, 14 May 2011, at 2:32 a.m.
                      • you mean "misread as 5-3?"
                        Steve Mellen -- Saturday, 14 May 2011, at 3:08 a.m.
                        • you mean "misread as 5-3?"
                          Casper van der Tak -- Saturday, 14 May 2011, at 4:48 a.m.
                          • you mean "misread as 5-3?"
                            Steve Mellen -- Saturday, 14 May 2011, at 1:31 p.m.
        • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
          Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 1:49 p.m.
          • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
            mtuhtan -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:00 p.m.
            • Following rules does not necessarily end in the most moral decision
              Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:10 p.m.
        • Use a different name next time please. *NM*
          Casper van der Tak -- Friday, 13 May 2011, at 2:15 p.m.