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Explaining Ray's Incredible Success

Posted By: David
Date: Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 2:24 p.m.

In Response To: Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !! (Stick)

Stick,

Stick, I think I get what you are saying, regarding Ray's success. Let me add three comments:

1) How on earth does a guy with a PR in the 4's do so incredibly well? It does not seem possible.....

2) How much does Ray's board presence (will to win, intimidation, schtick etc.) contribute to his success? Quite a bit, it would seem!

3) Skills vs. results: You constantly say how Federer is the best ever, and then you back this up with his tennis RESULTS. Yet, you do not give backgammon players the same credit for thier results.

Let's say hypothetically there is a tennis player with a better forehand, backhand, serve, and volley than Federer, but this player just never wins for whatever reason. Who would the better player be, the one with the better strokes, or the one who actually wins the tournaments?

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• Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
  neilkaz -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 2:10 a.m.
  • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
    Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 3:41 a.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 4:17 a.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 4:21 a.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      adambulldog -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 8:03 p.m.
  • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
    Stick -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 6:42 a.m.
    • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
      David -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 2:24 p.m.
      • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
        Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 2:36 p.m.
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        Stick -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 2:58 p.m.
        • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
          Mr Majestyk -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 3:21 p.m.
      • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
        Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 3:44 p.m.
        • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
          Stick -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 4:00 p.m.
          • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
            Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 4:41 p.m.
            • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
              Stick -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 4:50 p.m.
              • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 5:11 p.m.
                • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                  Stick -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 5:16 p.m.
                  • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                    christian munk-christensen -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 5:39 p.m.
                    • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                      Stick -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 5:56 p.m.
                      • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                        Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 6:13 p.m.
                        • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                          Stick -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 6:16 p.m.
                        • AARON UPDATE
                          DanielP -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 7:15 p.m.
                        • Reality Check (OT-baseball)
                          adambulldog -- Thursday, 7 July 2011, at 11:39 a.m.
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                            Bob Koca -- Thursday, 7 July 2011, at 5:19 p.m.
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                              Bill Riles -- Thursday, 7 July 2011, at 10:55 p.m.
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                                Bob Koca -- Thursday, 7 July 2011, at 11:13 p.m.
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                            Bill Riles -- Thursday, 7 July 2011, at 10:14 p.m.
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                              adambulldog -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 12:03 a.m.
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                            Rich Munitz -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 12:12 a.m.
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                              adambulldog -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 12:47 a.m.
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                                Rich Munitz -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 3:02 a.m.
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                            Bob Koca -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 3:54 a.m.
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                              adambulldog -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 3:00 p.m.
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                                Rich Munitz -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 3:35 p.m.
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                                  Bob Koca -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 4:37 p.m.
                              • Reality Check (OT-baseball)
                                Bob Koca -- Friday, 8 July 2011, at 4:34 p.m.
                    • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                      Mr Majestyk -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 6:42 p.m.
                  • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                    Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 5:41 p.m.
                    • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                      Stick -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 5:50 p.m.
                    • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 6:51 p.m.
                      • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                        Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 7:34 p.m.
                        • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 8:10 p.m.
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                            adambulldog -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 8:15 p.m.
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                              Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 8:24 p.m.
                              • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                                adambulldog -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 8:34 p.m.
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                                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 10:29 p.m.
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                                    adambulldog -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 6:55 a.m.
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                                      Stick -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 6:59 a.m.
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                                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 1:21 p.m.
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                                      Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 2:08 p.m.
                        • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
                          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 8:31 p.m.
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                            Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 8:40 p.m.
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                              adambulldog -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 8:55 p.m.
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                                Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 9:11 p.m.
            • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
              Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 6:49 p.m.
            • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
              Liam -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 10:32 p.m.
          • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
            Chiva Tafazzoli -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 9:24 p.m.
        • Ray, leading the way to the post bot era!
          KenB -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 4:09 p.m.
          • Ray, leading the way to the post bot era!
            falafel -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 5:54 a.m.
        • Mikael Jensen
          Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 5:30 p.m.
      • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
        jdg -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 6:01 p.m.
      • Explaining Ray's Incredible Success
        adambulldog -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 7:50 p.m.
  • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
    Higonefive -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 7:09 p.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      Mislav Radica -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 11:13 p.m.
      • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
        Michael Petch -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 11:38 p.m.
        • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
          Mislav Radica -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 8:23 a.m.
  • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
    Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 9:26 p.m.
  • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
    Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 5 July 2011, at 10:15 p.m.
  • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
    Alfred Mamlet -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 1:50 a.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      Bill Finneran -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 1:03 p.m.
  • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
    Steve Mellen -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 2:10 a.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 2:40 a.m.
  • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
    Stick -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 4:20 a.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 5:41 a.m.
      • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
        Stick -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 5:47 a.m.
        • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
          adambulldog -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 9:32 p.m.
          • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
            rory -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 10:30 p.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      Higonefive -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 9:50 a.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 1:11 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 1:49 p.m.
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        neilkaz -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 1:51 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 2:32 p.m.
    • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
      adambulldog -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 8:02 p.m.
      • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
        Stick -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 8:39 p.m.
        • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
          adambulldog -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 9:05 p.m.
          • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
            Stick -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 9:47 p.m.
            • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
              adambulldog -- Thursday, 7 July 2011, at 12:34 a.m.
              • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
                Stick -- Thursday, 7 July 2011, at 3:30 a.m.
        • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 10:34 p.m.
      • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
        falafel -- Wednesday, 6 July 2011, at 9:54 p.m.
        • Records are made to be broken !! Congrats Ray !!
          adambulldog -- Thursday, 7 July 2011, at 12:44 a.m.