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Posted By: Stick
Date: Friday, 19 December 2008, at 6:13 a.m.

I'm hoping someone out there in the wide wide world can start explaining some things that have been brought to my attention (everyone bow & thank Nack) in helping Nack with his next book.

Same 3rd roll position, both for money, one rollout 5k the other 15k. Same rollout settings, different seeds.

The difference in equity for 5(2) 1*(2) is pretty astounding isn't it? Also, shouldn't the amount of variance in a 15k rollout be less than that of a 5k rollout? Ideas?

gnubg	159
user	157
Position ID: 4HPkQSCGZ/ABMA Match ID: cIkEAAAAAAAA

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	8/7*(2) 6/5(2)	+0.4821
			0.5998 0.2212 0.0108 - 0.4002 0.0985 0.0044 +0.3287 +0.4821 0.0008 0.0010 0.0003 - 0.0008 0.0007 0.0002 0.0021 0.0059
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 833317690 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	6/5(2) 2/1*(2)	+0.4319 ( -0.0502)
			0.5735 0.2556 0.0094 - 0.4265 0.0994 0.0044 +0.3083 +0.4319 0.0007 0.0010 0.0003 - 0.0007 0.0007 0.0002 0.0020 0.0055
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 833317690 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

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gnubg	159
user	157
Position ID: 4HPkQSCGZ/ABMA Match ID: cIkEAAAAAAAA

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	8/7*(2) 6/5(2)	+0.4634
			0.6008 0.1913 0.0096 - 0.3992 0.0826 0.0032 +0.3165 +0.4634 0.0006 0.0010 0.0002 - 0.0006 0.0007 0.0001 0.0020 0.0055
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1050046090 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	6/5(2) 2/1*(2)	+0.3490 ( -0.1145)
			0.5637 0.2108 0.0065 - 0.4363 0.0817 0.0035 +0.2596 +0.3490 0.0006 0.0010 0.0002 - 0.0006 0.0007 0.0001 0.0022 0.0059
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1050046090 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• GNU Gurus Enter Here
  Stick -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 6:13 a.m.
  • GNU Gurus Enter Here
    aoleg1 -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 7:23 a.m.
    • GNU Gurus Enter Here
      Stick -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 7:31 a.m.
      • GNU Gurus Enter Here
        Bob Koca -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 8:36 a.m.
        • GNU Gurus Enter Here
          Bob Koca -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 8:38 a.m.
          • GNU Gurus Enter Here
            Stick -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 8:47 a.m.
            • GNU Gurus Enter Here
              Bob Koca -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 8:52 a.m.
        • GNU Gurus Enter Here
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 7:44 p.m.
      • GNU Gurus Enter Here
        aoleg1 -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 9:31 a.m.
  • GNU Gurus Enter Here
    dc-ohio -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 3:11 p.m.
    • GNU Gurus Enter Here
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 6:57 p.m.
  • GNU Gurus Enter Here
    Bill Riles -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 4:02 p.m.
    • GNU Gurus Enter Here
      Stick -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 4:53 p.m.
  • GNU Gurus Enter Here
    Chuck Bower -- Friday, 19 December 2008, at 7:52 p.m.
  • Rollout 1
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 20 December 2008, at 5:23 a.m.
    • Rollout 1
      Bob Koca -- Saturday, 20 December 2008, at 5:59 a.m.
      • Non-jacoby rollout
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 20 December 2008, at 6:06 a.m.
  • Rollout 2
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 21 December 2008, at 6:06 a.m.