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Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply

Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 4:55 p.m.

In Response To: Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply (KenB)

Thanks, Ken. The reason I asked you to post the XG (3-ply) rollout is that its S/D margin differs substantially from those of Snowie and Gnu.

Here is data for opening 54:

Money
Snowie .. [S D21 R30] 31k 10kR
GnuBG .. [S D11 R25] 92k
XG 3-ply [S D3 R25] 62k

Other scores (GnuBG)
d[S R8 D23] 31k 5kD
s[S R17 D45] 36k 5kD
g[D S20] 15k

Key: S = Split (24/20 13/8, D = Down (13/9 13/8), R = Run (24/15). Error sizes are in thousandths.

A letter before the brackets denotes score: d = dmp, s = gammon save, g = gammon go; else assume money. After the brackets is the number of trials (in thousands, rounded down). For example, "s[S R17 D45] 36k 5kD" means that at (gammon) save, S is best and R is -.017 after 36000+ trials (and D is -.045 after 5000+ trials).

The Snowie rollout on this site is [S D30] 15k, but the rollout that I just posted (and that is summarily listed above) is an extension of that rollout, which narrowed the margin to [S D21] 31k. I am in the process of having S and D extended to 46k.

The GnuBG rollout on this site (which I just posted here, for convenience) is [S D13.1] 46k. I also copied David Rockwell's Supremo rollout into the same post, which is [S D9.9] 46k. The data from these two rollouts is summarized in the [S D11] 92k composite above.

Nack

Messages In This Thread

• Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
  KenB -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 3:21 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 3:40 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:08 p.m.
      • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
        neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:28 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, Snowie
    Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 4:00 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollouts (two), GnuBG
    Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 4:21 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollouts (two), GnuBG
      Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:07 p.m.
      • Opening 54 rollouts (two), GnuBG
        Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:24 p.m.
        • Opening 54 rollouts (two), GnuBG
          Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:34 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
    Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 4:55 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      phil simborg -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 5:46 p.m.
      • Opening move data, three bots
        Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:11 p.m.
        • Opening move data, three bots
          Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:25 p.m.
          • Opening move data, three bots
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:38 p.m.
        • Opening 21 XG 4 ply 46k
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:26 p.m.
        • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:38 p.m.
          • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:56 p.m.
            • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
              neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:58 p.m.
              • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
                Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:41 p.m.
              • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
                Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
    Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:15 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:27 p.m.
      • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
        Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:02 p.m.
        • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
          Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:25 p.m.
          • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 9:30 p.m.
            • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
              Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 7:04 a.m.
              • 54S-63
                Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:09 p.m.
                • 54S-63
                  Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:33 p.m.
                  • 54S-63
                    Stick -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:53 p.m.
                  • 54S-63
                    Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 4:36 p.m.
                    • 54S-63
                      Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 4:41 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:48 p.m.
      • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
        Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:58 p.m.
        • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
          Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:07 p.m.
        • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:25 p.m.
          • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:58 p.m.
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        KenB -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:26 p.m.
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          Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:41 p.m.
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            KenB -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:44 p.m.
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          Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 6 June 2010, at 7:56 p.m.
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            Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 6 June 2010, at 8:11 p.m.
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              Nack Ballard -- Monday, 7 June 2010, at 10:23 p.m.
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                Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 7 June 2010, at 10:47 p.m.
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                  Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 8 June 2010, at 12:07 a.m.
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                  Gregg Cattanach -- Wednesday, 9 June 2010, at 6:25 p.m.
                  • Thanks to you too, Gregg :) *NM*
                    Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 2:55 a.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
    David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:21 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 11:38 p.m.
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    Klaus Evers -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 9:36 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:34 p.m.
      • ...depending on whom I am playing ...?
        Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 11:29 p.m.
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      KenB -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:28 p.m.