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An Exceptionally Humble Response to Mr. Stick

Posted By: Paul Weaver
Date: Monday, 17 October 2011, at 10:11 a.m.

In Response To: Three Weaver Whoppers vs Joe Russell (Stick)

Mr. Stick wrote, "The explanation for #2 misses the point."

Thanks, Mr. Stick. I humbly admit (as one of the most humble people on the planet) that I was wrong on at least three issues here, and possibly many more:

(1) I was wrong about how to play 21 in the original position when it came up over the board.

(2) I was wrong in giving my explanation about White's stripped 8pt. That was a minor contributing factor, but not the main point. Blue loses far fewer gammons on the 23pt (14% vs 18%) than on the 24pt.

(3) Evidently, I was also wrong in assuming that 90% of all players would know as little as I did and would make the same whopper I did.

I am glad I made my post and I am glad Mr. Stick responded, because I have learned something, although I am sure that even now, my knowledge of the topic does not compete with Mr. Stick's.

I am posting four positions below with the XG+ eval. The first is Mr. Stick's position (for money instead of at the score), the second is Mr. Stick's position at DMP, the third is a variation, with 11 to be played for money and the fourth is the same variation at DMP.

Position 1.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 131
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 159
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=----A-EbC----Da-acce----AA:0:0:1:21:0:0:3:0:10
Blue to play 21

1.XG Roller+Bar/23 24/23eq: -0.766
Player:
Opponent:
29.95% (G:5.32% B:0.18%)
70.05% (G:13.95% B:0.55%)
2.XG Roller+Bar/24 6/4eq: -0.845 (-0.079)
Player:
Opponent:
29.67% (G:5.46% B:0.18%)
70.33% (G:17.96% B:0.95%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.00

Position 2.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 131
1 point match
pip: 159
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=----A-EbC----Da-acce----AA:0:0:1:21:0:0:0:1:10
Blue to play 21

1.XG Roller+Bar/22eq: -0.387
Player:
Opponent:
30.63% (G:5.42% B:0.20%)
69.37% (G:25.87% B:1.03%)
2.XG Roller+Bar/24 6/4eq: -0.388 (0.000)
Player:
Opponent:
30.62% (G:5.81% B:0.23%)
69.38% (G:23.78% B:1.43%)
3.XG Roller+Bar/23 24/23eq: -0.388 (-0.001)
Player:
Opponent:
30.59% (G:5.71% B:0.20%)
69.41% (G:18.03% B:0.95%)
4.XG Roller+Bar/23 6/5eq: -0.406 (-0.018)
Player:
Opponent:
29.72% (G:5.65% B:0.21%)
70.28% (G:29.23% B:1.40%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.00, MET: eXtremeGammon

Position 3.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 131
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 161
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=------FbC----Da-acce----AA:0:0:1:11:0:0:3:0:10
Blue to play 11

1.XG Roller+Bar/23 24/23 6/5eq: -0.738
Player:
Opponent:
30.61% (G:5.62% B:0.19%)
69.39% (G:14.09% B:0.54%)
2.XG Roller+Bar/24 6/5(3)eq: -0.771 (-0.033)
Player:
Opponent:
30.98% (G:6.03% B:0.21%)
69.02% (G:17.11% B:0.85%)
3.XG Roller+Bar/23 6/5(2)eq: -0.786 (-0.048)
Player:
Opponent:
32.31% (G:5.99% B:0.19%)
67.69% (G:21.57% B:0.56%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.00

Position 4.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 131
1 point match
pip: 161
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=------FbC----Da-acce----AA:0:0:1:11:0:0:0:1:10
Blue to play 11

1.XG Roller+Bar/23 6/5(2)eq: -0.347
Player:
Opponent:
32.67% (G:5.99% B:0.22%)
67.33% (G:23.70% B:0.73%)
2.XG Roller+Bar/24 6/5(3)eq: -0.363 (-0.017)
Player:
Opponent:
31.83% (G:6.15% B:0.23%)
68.17% (G:24.12% B:1.25%)
3.XG Roller+Bar/22 6/5eq: -0.372 (-0.025)
Player:
Opponent:
31.41% (G:5.55% B:0.21%)
68.59% (G:25.82% B:1.03%)
4.XG Roller+Bar/24 13/12 6/5(2)eq: -0.376 (-0.029)
Player:
Opponent:
31.22% (G:5.91% B:0.22%)
68.78% (G:24.56% B:1.63%)
5.XG Roller+Bar/23 24/23 6/5eq: -0.378 (-0.032)
Player:
Opponent:
31.08% (G:5.68% B:0.22%)
68.92% (G:16.91% B:0.80%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.00, MET: eXtremeGammon

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