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Bearoff Cube Action

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Tuesday, 13 March 2012, at 4:07 p.m.

In Response To: Endgame Cube Action (AP)

I suggest trying to estimate this by hand assuming that your opp owns the cube.

This is how I learned things like this 35 years ago before bots.

Try to estimate in 36ths since there are 36 rolls. When your opp has the cube you lose all 11 games when you roll any 2 since you must pass the recube.

Now considering that the opp can beat you with a useful double in his next two rolls or that you could roll 13,14,15,16 here and then roll a missing two to waste a turn and get cubed out, and that you can waste a turn with 21 next you can see that you just might be losing at least 7 of the remaining games ending up losing more than 18 games when your opp owns the cube. Of course, even if this position-type isn't a beaver, it still is often no RD if you're barely a favorite when the opp has the cube since there's some cube value in cashing next turn.

I leave the exact analysis to you as an exercise.

Messages In This Thread

• Endgame Cube Action
  AP -- Tuesday, 13 March 2012, at 1:23 p.m.
  • Endgame Cube Action
    Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 13 March 2012, at 1:54 p.m.
  • Endgame Cube Action
    Michael Nielsen -- Tuesday, 13 March 2012, at 3:28 p.m.
  • Bearoff Cube Action
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 13 March 2012, at 4:07 p.m.
    • Bearoff Cube Action
      Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 13 March 2012, at 8:40 p.m.
  • Endgame Cube Action
    Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 14 March 2012, at 12:03 a.m.
  • Endgame Cube Action
    AP -- Friday, 16 March 2012, at 1:10 a.m.