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Backgammon vs Poker bankroll calculations

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Saturday, 13 October 2007, at 5:20 p.m.

In Response To: Backgammon vs Poker bankroll calculations (Stanley E. Richards)

(1) Admittedly I've some interest in the topic, but bankroll has to be one of the most over-discussed topics in poker. Unless gambling is your only source of income, bankroll is irrelevant. If you're not a pro or independently wealthy, your "bankroll" has another name: job.

(2) One of the cited articles talks about win rate in no limit as BB/hour = Big Blind/Hour. I don't know if this is standard for NL, but another cited article talks about win rate in limit as BB/hour = Big Bets/Hour. This is standard jargon for limit poker. In Limit HE, a big bet is twice the big blind.

Full Limit Typical Win Rate of Successful Player = 1 BB/100 [hands]

Dunno where this comes from. It's not clear whether BB is big bet or big blind. Big bet or big blind, it's absurdly low, imo. In Limit HE acceptable win rates for a "winning player" differ with stake. More realistic estimates, again imo:

$500/$1000 ... 0.5 Big Bet/hour

$15/30 - $40/80 ... 1 Big Bet/hour or more

small stakes ... 2 Big Bets/hour or more.

And these are estimates for B&M (brick & mortar) games where you're lucky to get 30 hands/hour, pay high rake, and tip the dealer. Online, you get 60-90 or more hands/hour, pay lower rake, don't tip. The players may be better, though, but maybe not. But your win rate/hour should be higher than in B&M poker.

(3) In discussions of poker win rates, it's always, as far as I recall, post-rake. But your backgammon calculations, Stanley, don't appear to have factored in the enormous cut the online backgammon house takes.

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