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TWO RO's; first 0-ply

Posted By: Chuck Bower
Date: Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 3:18 p.m.

In Response To: I can post 4th roll problems, too (Chuck Bower)

I wanted to narrow the many candidates down. I trust 0-ply to do that when differences are this big. The next post is 2-ply of the two finalists.

The score (after 6 games) is: philnutting 4, c_ray 5 (match to 11 points)

Move number 4: c_ray to play 23

Pip counts: philnutting 154, c_ray 155
Position ID: 4PPgQQjgc8YBBg Match ID: cAltAUAAKAAA

• c_ray moves 13/11 6/3*

Cube decision
2-ply cubeless equity		+0.2540	(Money: +0.2357)
	0.5700 0.1696 0.0040 - 0.4300 0.0764 0.0016
Cubeful equities:
	2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
1.	No double	+0.3220
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+0.6780
3.	Double, take	+0.1298	-0.1922
Proper cube action:		No double, take (22.1%)

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.119)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	6/3*/1	+0.1632
			0.5292 0.1454 0.0053 - 0.4708 0.0850 0.0037 +0.1258 +0.1632 0.0020 0.0018 0.0008 - 0.0020 0.0015 0.0006 0.0053 0.0131
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1063 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	10/8 10/7*	+0.1456 ( -0.0176)
			0.5345 0.1283 0.0042 - 0.4655 0.0863 0.0036 +0.1129 +0.1456 0.0020 0.0017 0.0004 - 0.0020 0.0015 0.0006 0.0053 0.0129
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1063 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	8/3*	+0.1150 ( -0.0482)
			0.5197 0.1493 0.0042 - 0.4803 0.0868 0.0053 +0.1046 +0.1150 0.0020 0.0018 0.0003 - 0.0020 0.0013 0.0012 0.0056 0.0130
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1062 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	4	R	13/8	+0.1055 ( -0.0577)
			0.5204 0.1095 0.0033 - 0.4796 0.0657 0.0027 +0.0869 +0.1055 0.0017 0.0016 0.0004 - 0.0017 0.0012 0.0004 0.0043 0.0106
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1063 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	5	R	13/11 10/7*	+0.0910 ( -0.0722)
			0.5228 0.1314 0.0042 - 0.4772 0.1027 0.0041 +0.0744 +0.0910 0.0019 0.0017 0.0006 - 0.0019 0.0017 0.0005 0.0053 0.0131
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1063 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	6	R	13/10 6/4	+0.0769 ( -0.0863)
			0.5128 0.1140 0.0040 - 0.4872 0.0730 0.0025 +0.0710 +0.0769 0.0020 0.0017 0.0005 - 0.0020 0.0013 0.0005 0.0052 0.0130
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1063 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	7	R	13/10 8/6	+0.0732 ( -0.0900)
			0.5125 0.1065 0.0027 - 0.4875 0.0659 0.0028 +0.0688 +0.0732 0.0017 0.0015 0.0004 - 0.0017 0.0012 0.0005 0.0044 0.0110
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1062 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	8	R	13/11 6/3*	+0.0447 ( -0.1185)
			0.5077 0.1355 0.0052 - 0.4923 0.1010 0.0065 +0.0537 +0.0447 0.0021 0.0017 0.0005 - 0.0021 0.0014 0.0013 0.0055 0.0138
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1062 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	9	R	21/16	+0.0318 ( -0.1314)
			0.5119 0.0964 0.0047 - 0.4881 0.1000 0.0039 +0.0182 +0.0318 0.0018 0.0015 0.0008 - 0.0018 0.0014 0.0006 0.0049 0.0124
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1062 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1046231040 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	10	0	6/1	+0.1057 ( -0.0575)
			0.5192 0.1266 0.0024 - 0.4808 0.0770 0.0011
			0-ply cubeful prune [expert]

Messages In This Thread

• I can post 4th roll problems, too
  Chuck Bower -- Monday, 31 December 2007, at 3:16 p.m.
  • I can post 4th roll problems, too
    Caryl Stephanson -- Monday, 31 December 2007, at 4:15 p.m.
  • I can post 4th roll problems, too
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 31 December 2007, at 7:47 p.m.
  • I can post 4th roll problems, too
    mamabear -- Monday, 31 December 2007, at 8:54 p.m.
  • I can post 4th roll problems, too
    neilkaz -- Monday, 31 December 2007, at 11:59 p.m.
  • I can post 4th roll problems, too
    Stick -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 9:30 a.m.
  • TWO RO's; first 0-ply
    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 3:18 p.m.
    • 2-ply TCTC
      Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 3:24 p.m.
  • FWIW, my OtB and post-mortem
    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 3:38 p.m.
    • FWIW, my OtB and post-mortem
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 9:31 p.m.
      • FWIW, my OtB and post-mortem
        Stick -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 10:02 p.m.
      • FWIW, my OtB and post-mortem
        Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 10:46 p.m.
        • FWIW, my OtB and post-mortem
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 11:05 p.m.
          • FWIW, my OtB and post-mortem
            Stick -- Tuesday, 1 January 2008, at 11:07 p.m.
  • I can post 4th roll problems, too
    Stein Kulseth -- Wednesday, 2 January 2008, at 12:38 a.m.