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7pt+5pt variant, and comparisons

Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015, at 4:01 p.m.

In Response To: Variant (1 pip different) (Nack Ballard)

	is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 149 Unlimited Game Jacoby Beaver pip: 165 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-a---aD-C-B-cD---cbcbA--A-:0:0:1:35:0:0:3:0:10
to play 35

1.	Rollout1	24/21 13/8	eq: -0.203
	Player: Opponent: 43.89% (G:7.43% B:0.23%) 56.11% (G:8.39% B:0.29%) Conf.: � 0.014 (-0.217...-0.190) - [100.0%] Duration: 21 minutes 26 seconds
2.	Rollout1	10/5* 8/5	eq: -0.240 (-0.037)
	Player: Opponent: 44.35% (G:12.84% B:0.58%) 55.65% (G:16.94% B:0.95%) Conf.: � 0.015 (-0.255...-0.225) - [0.0%] Duration: 19 minutes 04 seconds
3.	4-ply	24/21 6/1*	eq: -0.368 (-0.164)
	Player: Opponent: 39.63% (G:6.92% B:0.15%) 60.37% (G:12.51% B:0.46%)
4.	3-ply	24/21 8/3	eq: -0.372 (-0.169)
	Player: Opponent: 39.66% (G:7.08% B:0.23%) 60.34% (G:12.61% B:0.45%)
5.	3-ply	24/21 10/5*	eq: -0.425 (-0.221)
	Player: Opponent: 39.55% (G:7.96% B:0.27%) 60.45% (G:15.55% B:0.58%)
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

Above is John's original rollout of [P @37] (though only 1k) with Brown spares on 8pt + 6pt.

The third rollout (final diagram of this post) is my contrasting rollout of [@ P17] with spares on 8pt + 7pt (no inside spare).

The second rollout (immediately below) of [@ P7] is for the variant discussed in the final paragraph here.

The spare placements in the second and third rollouts eliminate Brown's 22 joker (when White POH). The third rollout also takes away Brown's inside spare (and neither her entering 5s nor 6s play conveniently down).

Nack

P.S. Typically, I'm visualizing positions in my head rather than looking at the board, and I've got into the habit of seeing Blue (near side) and White (far side) as I write. Sorry if that was confusing in my previous two e-mails. Here, White (vanilla?) is on the near side and Brown (chocolate?) is on the far side.

	is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 147 Unlimited Game Jacoby Beaver pip: 165 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-a---aD-C-B-cD---bcbcA--A-:0:0:1:53:0:0:3:0:10
to play 53

1.	Rollout1	24/21 13/8	eq: -0.203
	Player: Opponent: 43.88% (G:7.68% B:0.23%) 56.12% (G:8.86% B:0.30%) Conf.: กำ 0.005 (-0.208...-0.199) - [97.1%] Duration: 4 hours 58 minutes
2.	Rollout1	10/5* 8/5	eq: -0.210 (-0.007)
	Player: Opponent: 44.79% (G:13.42% B:0.56%) 55.21% (G:16.56% B:0.98%) Conf.: กำ 0.006 (-0.216...-0.205) - [2.9%] Duration: 5 hours 01 minute
1 10368 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

	is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 150 Unlimited Game Jacoby Beaver pip: 165 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-a---aD-C-B-cD---ccbbA--A-:0:0:1:53:0:0:3:0:10
to play 53

1.	Rollout1	10/5* 8/5	eq: -0.183
	Player: Opponent: 45.29% (G:13.56% B:0.56%) 54.71% (G:15.48% B:0.88%) Conf.: กำ 0.008 (-0.190...-0.175) - [100.0%] Duration: 3 hours 11 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/8	eq: -0.200 (-0.017)
	Player: Opponent: 44.15% (G:7.53% B:0.22%) 55.85% (G:8.44% B:0.30%) Conf.: กำ 0.006 (-0.206...-0.193) - [0.0%] Duration: 3 hours 17 minutes
1 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

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        • Variant (1 pip different)
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