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AI: The x'000 year-old game of competitive backgammon may well have to change...

Posted By: Sebalotek
Date: Thursday, 4 July 2024, at 1:05 a.m.

In Response To: AI: The x'000 year-old game of competitive backgammon may well have to change... (Bob Koca)

Firstly - I got sucked in, but I should point out, before this thread gets deflected off course too much - this is probably the wrong thread for this convo. It would be much better suited to my most recent AI Backgammon Rules Assistant thread. This particular thread is supposed to be about the future of live, competitive backgammon wrt the future technological impacts of Neuralink, BCI etc. Quel désordre! 8-P

Anyway before switching and to conclude for now - do you not think that it would have been a fairer test if the question was:

1. Supplied in the previously requested (and strongly recommended) clear, complete, relevant and sequentially ordered format (much the same as almost all human TDs would also certainly prefer i.e. 1..., 2..., 3..., 4..., not 4..,?.., 2.)

2. Supplied *with the extremely relevant information included* in the initial problem description (State whether you have any knowledge of the person's medical history or legitimate prescriptions Y/N).

Otherwise I believe the input is skewed with the omission of such obviously relevant factors being left out (whether purposefully or involuntarily)

As I've previously expressed, and I'm sure you have long been aware, the quality in the way the question is presented, has a huge impact on the quality of the output. GIGO.

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Additionally, I repeat - the name of the AI is the Backgammon Rules Assistant . It is an Assistant to the TD. It is not the final arbiter of judgement. Human TDs have fantastic additional detectors such as eyes, ears, hands and enquiring, organic brains etc to help them 'get to the bottom of' situations.

Also I believe any human TD worth their salt would raise the question on if the player has a legitimate use for such drugs (like I did). I've trained the bot to not over-reach - more consistent and accurate to simply focus on what is in the rulebooks and not infer too much outside of that. Mr AI tries to leave stuff not explicitly mentioned in the rulebooks to the humans (by design) if not given sufficient information.

When the AI is given a fairer playing-field of being told in advance that the person has a legitimate medical condition (or not), even in a non-structured query, its response seems reasonably appropriate to me:

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Suppose I suspect my opponent is currently using Adderall to improve his mental focus. in addition, i know that they have a legitimate ADHD problem and they have taken a prescribed tablet from their doctor

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Given this additional information, the situation should still be handled with care, balancing fairness and respect for the player's legitimate medical needs. Here’s what should be done:

Report to the Tournament Director (TD): Inform the TD about your suspicion and also mention that you are aware the player has a legitimate ADHD diagnosis and is taking prescribed medication. This ensures the TD has all relevant information.

Discretion and Respect: The TD should handle the situation discreetly to respect the player's privacy and medical condition. They may ask the player to confirm the legitimacy of their prescription if necessary, but this should be done in a way that maintains confidentiality and dignity.

Fair Play and Integrity: The TD must ensure that all players are competing on a level playing field. If the medication is legally prescribed and taken according to a doctor's advice, it should generally not be considered an unfair advantage. The TD's primary role is to ensure there is no abuse or advantage that contravenes the spirit of fair play​​​​.

No Unfair Advantage: If it is determined that the player is using the medication legitimately and not for performance enhancement beyond their medical needs, no penalties should be imposed. The focus should be on whether the player is abusing the medication for an unfair advantage​​​​.

Document and Clarify: The TD might document the situation for transparency and future reference, ensuring that similar cases are handled consistently. They may also clarify the policy regarding legitimate medical use of prescribed medications to all participants to avoid future misunderstandings.

Relevant Citations: Reporting to the Tournament Director (TD):

"In case of a dispute or inquiry, participants must be truthful and forthcoming when questioned by the Tournament Director (TD), who shall determine the most appropriate course of action in circumstances not expressly addressed by the Rules." (USBGF Tournament Rules, Section 1.1.4, page 8)​​. Player's Privacy and Respect:

"Players must respect a request to limit conversation or distraction." (USBGF Tournament Rules, Section 1.2.3, page 11)​​. "Every TD must be impartial and avoid conflicts of interest." (USBGF Tournament Rules, Section 1.1.4.2, page 8)​​. Penalties:

"The TD may impose penalties for rule violations or for unacceptable behavior." (USBGF Tournament Rules, Section 1.1.5, page 10)​​. "A player in breach of the above standards of behavior may be sanctioned in any manner considered just and appropriate by the TD including, but not limited to, disqualification and exclusion from the Tournament playing area." (USBGF Tournament Rules, Section 1.2.4, page 12)​​. Transparency and Appeals:

"The TD should have a printed copy of the Rules available for consultation and should not hesitate to show the relevant rule text to the players involved. Every TD should read the Rules periodically, particularly before major tournaments to ensure that their knowledge is refreshed and current. Ignorance about the Rules may be indistinguishable from bias." (USBGF Tournament Rules, Section 1.1.4.2, page 8)​​. "An aggrieved player may promptly appeal any TD ruling and intended corrective action. The TD shall convene a Ruling Committee of 3 or 5 qualified and impartial players to independently consider evidence and argument, and by majority vote may reverse, or modify the TD’s ruling." (USBGF Tournament Rules, Section 5.2, page 72)​​. This approach ensures that concerns are addressed fairly while respecting the legitimate medical needs of players.

Hope this explains it. Please post any on-topic replies in this thread (Neuralink, BCI etc)

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