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Bad Beat (aka... where'd my 35 points go?)

Posted By: Michael Petch
Date: Thursday, 28 May 2009, at 12:25 a.m.

In Response To: Bad Beat (aka... where'd my 35 points go?) (Stick)

Mr. Rice, you may run this forum, and you may be an intelligent young man but please do not ever ATTEMPT put words in my mouth. I NEVER stated in any way shape or form that "stealing money is ok it seems".

Any objective person would see that some player took advantage of a bunch of foolish individuals who didn't ask people to put money up fron (escrow or some other means) prior to a chouette. That foolish decision (By what may be very intelligent people) was nonetheless entirely their doing. And on top of it the chouette was not sanctioned or endorsed by a tournament. It was THIRD PARTY.

Stealing the board is a much greyer issue. Even if its proveable, players should not be leaving their boards alone and I believe that stolen boards are also the responsibility of the board owner (having insurance is too). I also believe that a theft (potential blackballing) policy should be dealt with at the ABT level (not individual directors).

As for cheating, again. If there is a known cheater the ABT should deal with the cheaters universally. If the ABT has a problems with particular person they need to come up with a uniform solution. As well any such decision by the ABT should be appealable in this regard.

There is less control for the non ABT events that are not under one umbrella, and that becomes the discretion of individual tournament directors. And those directors should base their decisions on hard evidence with some well defined method of appeal.

I see the theft of the board (of someone who enterd an event) as theft from an event itself. Third party chouettes even if run in the same hotel should be considered arms length from any event coordinator and all disputes and problems should be the sole responsibility of the players. Of course if chouettes were officially sanctioned and run within the Tournament then its a different story. In that case I'd mandate (as a TD) money be put in escrow at the beginning of the event) to help mitigate the walk away problem.

I'd be real curious. Lets say that a person is denied entry to an ABT event, is there an ABT appeals committee that a player can go to? If there isn't I'd say the ABT needs some refinement.

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