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The solution... (?)

Posted By: mfic
Date: Monday, 29 June 2009, at 4:28 a.m.

In Response To: The solution... (?) (Bill Davis)

I kept win/loss and elo ratings, just for my local weekly tournaments, in the mid 1980's. On my Atari computer. And printed out the results each month. It became clear that some of our regular players were getting horrible ratings.

Who would want to know themselves, more less to have others see, that they were at a 33% win rate (e.g. won 33 matches and lost 67 matches)? Too much NEGATIVE feedback, and too much exposure.

So I stopped doing the localized ratings. Then about 3-4 years later I started submitting the weekly-sheets to KG for his national ratings database. Lots of us were pleased to see our players getting into the top 100 or 200 players in the USA. We paid Kent for the data entry work to include the weeklies. ($5 for a bracket of 16, so each of our two weeklies (6-rounds each) usually cost about 12-15$ and came from a $1 rake to each player as part of their entry fees [deducted from the prize pool]).

Now, with the INTERNET access, data gets a much larger audience and WE MUST NOT LET the poor stats become visible!

I do agree that there can be some player drop out due to negative feedback, but if we manage the visibility to only be able to view those who are above a certain ELO or w/l ratio, then keeping CHAMPIONSHIP level statistics should not have a negative impact of our backgammon population. And definitely keep it out of the Intermediate and Beginner divisions.

____________patrick(the MFIC)

Messages In This Thread

• The solution... (?)
  Coolrey -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 2:27 p.m.
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    Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 4:11 p.m.
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      Stick -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 6:45 p.m.
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        Sam Pottle -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 6:53 p.m.
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        Coolrey -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 6:53 p.m.
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        Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 7:47 p.m.
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    Bill Davis -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 4:47 p.m.
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      Bob Koca -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 5:47 p.m.
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      Bill Riles -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 5:51 p.m.
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      Coolrey -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 6:49 p.m.
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        Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 7:57 p.m.
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          Bill -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 8:13 p.m.
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          Marty Storer -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 1:13 p.m.
    • Noting that there used to be a KG ratings list...
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 8:30 p.m.
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      Marty Storer -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 1:02 p.m.
    • The solution... (?)
      mfic -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 4:28 a.m.
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        jdg -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 1:42 p.m.
  • How many players would quit BG if the Giants list was abolished *NM*
    Michael Petch -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 8:56 p.m.
    • None *NM*
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 9:02 p.m.
      • None
        Michael Petch -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 9:14 p.m.
        • Live and let live
          Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 9:28 p.m.
          • Live and let live
            Michael Petch -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 10:15 p.m.
            • Live and let live
              Coolrey -- Thursday, 18 June 2009, at 11:43 p.m.
              • Live and let live
                MaX -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 3:19 p.m.
    • How many players would quit BG if the Giants list was abolished
      Ray Reed -- Friday, 19 June 2009, at 12:55 p.m.