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Opening reply

Posted By: Stick
Date: Monday, 29 June 2009, at 8:04 p.m.

In Response To: Opening reply (Bob Tilp)

64R-21 it is clear to me that the split and hit is better than playing 13/10. I don't have the time to run a rollout for this atm. Below I have however pasted a gammon go rollout of the play in question in case that eases your mind any.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 2, user 1 (match to 3 points, Crawford game)

gnubg	157
user	167
Position ID: 4HPwBSDgc/ABMA Match ID: 8IloACAACAAA

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	24/23 13/11*	+0.3216
			0.5205 0.1403 0.0155 - 0.4795 0.1912 0.0308 +0.3216 +0.3216 0.0007 0.0006 0.0007 - 0.0007 0.0019 0.0011 0.0018 0.0018
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 818270528 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/11* 6/5	+0.3179 ( -0.0036)
			0.5118 0.1472 0.0186 - 0.4882 0.2293 0.0502 +0.3179 +0.3179 0.0009 0.0007 0.0007 - 0.0009 0.0020 0.0013 0.0025 0.0025
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 818270528 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/11*/10	+0.3104 ( -0.0112)
			0.5125 0.1427 0.0160 - 0.4875 0.1953 0.0368 +0.3104 +0.3104 0.0011 0.0009 0.0010 - 0.0011 0.0028 0.0017 0.0029 0.0029
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			6923 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 818270528 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• Opening reply
  Bob Tilp -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 7:55 p.m.
  • Opening reply
    Stick -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 8:04 p.m.
    • Opening reply
      David Rockwell -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:26 p.m.
      • Why are you guys so convinced?
        Chuck Bower -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:40 p.m.
        • Why are you guys so convinced?
          Stick -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:51 p.m.
          • SM?
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 7:38 p.m.
        • Why are you guys so convinced?
          Keene -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 10:24 p.m.
        • Why are you guys so convinced?
          David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:39 a.m.
        • Why are you guys so convinced?
          garyo -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 6:59 a.m.
        • Why are you guys so convinced?
          Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 11:45 a.m.
          • Why are you guys so convinced?
            phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:15 p.m.
        • Why are you guys so convinced?
          Marty Storer -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 11:58 a.m.
        • Good arguments, but...
          Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 4:09 p.m.
          • Good arguments, but...
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 4:29 p.m.
          • Good arguments, but...
            neilkaz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 6:00 p.m.
            • Good arguments, but...
              Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 12:10 a.m.
              • Good arguments, but...
                neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 4:48 a.m.
                • Good arguments, but...
                  Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 1:33 p.m.
            • Good arguments, but...
              Marty Storer -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 3:05 p.m.