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A case for clocks - fast rolling

Posted By: Chuck Bower
Date: Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 1:46 p.m.

In Response To: A case for clocks - fast rolling (phil Simborg)

I'm probably the biggest "broken record" here, and I've said this multiple times before, but...

1) I asked Butch Meese a long time ago about this situation you describe: player A has rolled, made a legal move, reaches for the dice and touches (even slides) them. Player B rolls and then player A says "I wasn't finished". Butch said (with the caveat that he always treats a situation as unique so he's not locked into anything he says 100%) that in such a case his default is to say that player A's roll was completed and player B's (purported fast roll) stands.

2) If the "no touching/moving the dice without verbal consent of opp) once that are legally flat on the board" (paraphrased rule was enforced consistently, some of the problems would go away, IMO.

I'm not arguing that the rules couldn't use some rework as you've been vociferously advocating for some time. But loose/lax enforcement of whatever rules exist can be a problem no matter how good the rules are. People should follow the rules that exist already, and if they don't like them, go to the (painful) effort of getting them changed.

Messages In This Thread

• A case for clocks - fast rolling
  Jim Allen -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 6:36 p.m.
  • A case for clocks - fast rolling
    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 6:42 p.m.
  • A case for clocks - fast rolling
    Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 7:42 p.m.
    • A case for clocks - fast rolling
      phil Simborg -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 11:43 a.m.
      • A case for clocks - fast rolling
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 1:46 p.m.
        • A case for clocks - fast rolling
          Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 4:16 p.m.
          • A case for clocks - fast rolling
            neilkaz -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 5:46 p.m.
            • A case for clocks - fast rolling
              Marty Storer -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 4:54 p.m.
      • A case for clocks - fast rolling
        Robert Maier -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 5:44 p.m.
  • A case for clocks - fast rolling
    neilkaz -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 2:29 p.m.
    • A case for clocks - fast rolling
      Jim Allen -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 4:51 p.m.
      • A case for clocks - fast rolling
        Jim Allen -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 4:53 p.m.
      • A case for clocks - fast rolling
        neilkaz -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 4:59 p.m.
        • A case for clocks - fast rolling
          Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 8:10 p.m.
          • A case for clocks - fast rolling
            neilkaz -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 2:18 a.m.
  • A case for clocks - fast rolling
    Marty Storer -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 4:51 p.m.
    • A case for clocks - fast rolling
      Marty Storer -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 4:52 p.m.
    • A case for clocks - fast rolling
      Chuck Bower -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 4:59 p.m.
      • A case for clocks - fast rolling
        Rich Munitz -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 8:01 p.m.
        • A case for clocks - fast rolling
          Marty Storer -- Wednesday, 5 August 2009, at 5:38 p.m.
  • a bad rule
    garyo -- Monday, 10 August 2009, at 4:25 p.m.
    • a bad rule
      Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 11 August 2009, at 1:08 a.m.
      • a bad rule
        playBunny -- Tuesday, 11 August 2009, at 4:28 p.m.
        • a bad rule
          Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 11 August 2009, at 4:49 p.m.
      • a bad rule
        Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 11 August 2009, at 7:44 p.m.