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ruling in Madison
Posted By: Matt Cohn-Geier In Response To: ruling in Madison (Gregg Cattanach)
Date: Thursday, 10 September 2009, at 7:02 p.m.
If 'legal plays' are instituted and my opponent makes an illegal play, and I don't correct it (because I didn't see it), then he realizes he made an illegal play, now he wants to get out his knife. Or alternately, kibitzers see me fail to correct his illegal play, they think I am a cheater.
I don't see why. I have seen people I believe to be totally honest make illegal plays which greatly increased their equity. I don't believe they are scoundrels just because they made a mistake.
Part 2, it is completely uninforceable. There is no way to exact a penalty for failing to correct my opponent's illegal play.
The current rule does not give sufficient recourse to the truly injured, while punishing players who are honest. Honest players who make a mistake have to live with the opponent deciding whether or not to accept their illegal play. Those taking shots are never really punished since they at least break even with just making legal plays, and sometimes gain a large edge.
Part 3, you create an ethical dilemma for a player EVERY time the opponent makes an illegal play. Should I pretend to not notice and play on (increasing my $$ equity) or assist my opponent with his sloppy play?
I am with Chuck here. Intentionally breaking the rules to gain equity is not an ethical dilemma. Let's take UBK's situation. I am playing Stick in the finals and decide to hedge all the money (Stick gives me odds, because he knows how much I rock) and that Stick wins & gets the ABT title (if we need to play a match for the sake of courtesy, I just throw it).
Is that an ethical dilemma? It sure seems unethical to me.
Part 4, (and I have yet to hear anyone with a counter-argument for this), what possible rationale is there for putting ME in charge of helping my opponent when he makes an illegal play? I certainly don't have to when he makes a bad one.
What if the expectation were that, rather than have the onus on you to watch both your plays and your opponent's, all plays were to be legal? That is, players who are constantly trying to take shots to increase their equity by making illegal plays are just not welcome.
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