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MET update

Posted By: NJ
Date: Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 8:17 a.m.

In Response To: MET update (David Rockwell)

For Backgammon NJ, I created my own MET. I essentially just did a cubeful evaluation of the opening position at each match score. The neural net gave the gammon chance of the opening position as 13.77% per side, or 27.54% overall. Backgammon chance was 0.57% per side. Cube efficiency was set to 0.67. The resulting MET somewhat resembled mec26.

I'm interested in how you arrived at a 21.7% take point for the leader at -2, -13. Using my met and a 0.67 cube efficiency, my program says the take point should be 13.9% at -2, -13. That is a big difference.

Messages In This Thread

• MET update
  David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 3:40 p.m.
  • MET update
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 3:59 p.m.
    • Gammon %
      Frankie D -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 12:00 a.m.
      • Gammon %
        neilkaz -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 1:07 a.m.
        • Gammon %
          Stein Kulseth -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 7:50 a.m.
          • Gammon %
            Havard Raddum -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 10:31 a.m.
          • Gammon %
            Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 12:10 p.m.
          • Gammon %
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 1:48 p.m.
          • Gammon %
            David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 1:55 p.m.
  • MET update
    John O'Hagan -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 4:29 p.m.
    • MET update
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 5:04 p.m.
  • MET update
    Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 4:33 p.m.
    • MET update
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 4:55 p.m.
      • MET update
        NJ -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 11:15 a.m.
        • MET update
          Maik Stiebler -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 1:20 p.m.
          • MET update
            NJ -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 4:14 p.m.
          • Link doesn't work on any of the 3 comps I tried *NM*
            neilkaz -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 5:29 p.m.
            • did you try right-click -> save target as... ? *NM*
              Maik Stiebler -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 7:34 p.m.
              • TY that saved it,,but how do I look at it to compare to g11 and other MET's?
                neilkaz -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 7:39 p.m.
                • TY that saved it,,but how do I look at it to compare to g11 and other MET's?
                  Maik Stiebler -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 8:01 p.m.
                  • Thx *NM*
                    neilkaz -- Thursday, 24 September 2009, at 12:19 a.m.
    • MET update
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 7:10 p.m.
  • MET update
    NJ -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 8:17 a.m.
    • MET update
      Maik Stiebler -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 8:30 a.m.
      • MET update
        NJ -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 11:03 a.m.