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An ethics issue raised in Paris?

Posted By: Matt Cohn-Geier
Date: Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 10:52 p.m.

In Response To: An ethics issue raised in Paris? (Chuck Bower)

The alternatives I see are for Ray to not offer the cash gift, or for Chiva to refuse to accept it. However, one question that comes up for me is: "was this gift a positive for backgammon?" (Ray's intent from what I understand) and I think the answer there is pretty clearly 'yes'. So when you do the equity analysis (multiplying value times probability, then summing over all possible outcomes), even if there is a small probability that (subconsciously and certainly unintentionally) Ray receives favorable treatment at some time in the future, the net gain for backgammon is positive so it is worth the (very small, IMO) downside.

There is no way that I would have scored a 95 if Falafel had known Chuck.

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• An ethics issue raised in Paris?
  Perry Gartner -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:15 p.m.
  • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
    Gregg Cattanach -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:25 p.m.
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      Max Urban -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:29 p.m.
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      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:39 p.m.
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    Chiva Tafazzoli -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:35 p.m.
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      Coolrey -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 7:24 p.m.
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        Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 9:11 p.m.
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          Chiva Tafazzoli -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 10:09 p.m.
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            Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 10:27 p.m.
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              Chiva Tafazzoli -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 10:34 p.m.
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                Phil Simborg -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 11:57 p.m.
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                  Strato -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 7:47 a.m.
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                    Steen Grønbech -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 10:33 a.m.
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                      Chiva Tafazzoli -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 11:27 a.m.
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                        jdg -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 1:40 p.m.
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                          Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 9:26 p.m.
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                            Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 11:27 p.m.
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                              Steen Grønbech -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 7:49 a.m.
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                                Phil Simborg -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 12:34 p.m.
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                                  Bob Koca -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 2:50 p.m.
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                                    Phil Simborg -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 3:24 p.m.
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                                    Rich Munitz -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 6:03 p.m.
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                                      Joe Russell -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 11:59 p.m.
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                                        Chiva Tafazzoli -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, at 1:55 a.m.
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                                        Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, at 9:35 a.m.
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                                Timothy Chow -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 11:11 p.m.
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                        Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 3:48 p.m.
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                      Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 2:53 p.m.
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                    Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 12:20 p.m.
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                  Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 2:26 p.m.
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                    Dan Pelton -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 9:38 a.m.
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                      Chuck Bower -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 2:56 p.m.
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                        Phil Simborg -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 3:21 p.m.
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                          Chuck Bower -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 5:57 p.m.
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                        Dan Pelton -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, at 7:04 a.m.
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                rew -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 12:40 p.m.
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        Jason Lee -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 10:01 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:50 p.m.
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    Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:59 p.m.
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      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 4:37 p.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 3:11 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 3:18 p.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 7:36 p.m.
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    David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 4:16 p.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 5:31 p.m.
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      Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 7:15 p.m.
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      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 10:52 p.m.
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        Carter Mattig -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 4:36 a.m.
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    Alfred Mamlet -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 5:41 p.m.
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    Stick -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 5:41 p.m.
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    Marv Porten -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 6:19 p.m.
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      Dan Pelton -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 5:31 a.m.
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    Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 7:32 p.m.
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    Perry Gartner -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 3:06 a.m.
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    Coolrey -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 7:01 p.m.
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    J. Dawkins -- Monday, 9 November 2009, at 11:24 p.m.