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An ethics issue raised in Paris?

Posted By: Phil Simborg
Date: Friday, 6 November 2009, at 3:21 p.m.

In Response To: An ethics issue raised in Paris? (Chuck Bower)

How to involve the "people" is a problem if there is no way to determine who the people really are and who speaks for the people. However, we are on the verge of a new player's federation, and hopefully, once enough serious backgammon players join and support that organization, that organization will have a right to say that they truly represent the interests of the players. And if they form a Rules committee, and their rules committee polls the members and gets a consensus on a given rule, and they recommend it to the ABT or WBA or whoever, then it means something. This is one of the many reasons I have been an advocate of an association that represents players interests.

Hopefully, this will move forward, and hopefully there will be a rules committee, and hopefully, they will get input from the players on this site as well as the tournament directors and their membership and board BEFORE making a recommendation, and hopefully, as a result, we will see improvement in the many areas you, I, Rich Munitz, Harvey Gillis, Perry Gartner, and many others have pointed out need improvement in the game of Backgammon.

So be a little patient...I don't think we are too far away from seeing this happen.

The good news is that even if we see rules instituted that we are not wild about, at least we can't "blame" a small, elite group of tournament directors for the rule....and they can't take the blame either. The rules will be known to have been made after getting input from all; after being debated in forums such as this; and after a very experienced and respect committee has worked carefully on the wording to make the rule as concise and unambiguous and fair as possible.

Messages In This Thread

• An ethics issue raised in Paris?
  Perry Gartner -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:15 p.m.
  • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
    Gregg Cattanach -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:25 p.m.
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      Max Urban -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:29 p.m.
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      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:39 p.m.
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    Chiva Tafazzoli -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:35 p.m.
    • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
      Coolrey -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 7:24 p.m.
      • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
        Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 9:11 p.m.
        • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
          Chiva Tafazzoli -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 10:09 p.m.
          • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
            Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 10:27 p.m.
            • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
              Chiva Tafazzoli -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 10:34 p.m.
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                Phil Simborg -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 11:57 p.m.
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                  Strato -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 7:47 a.m.
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                    Steen Grønbech -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 10:33 a.m.
                    • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                      Chiva Tafazzoli -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 11:27 a.m.
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                        jdg -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 1:40 p.m.
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                          Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 9:26 p.m.
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                            Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 11:27 p.m.
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                              Steen Grønbech -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 7:49 a.m.
                              • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                                Phil Simborg -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 12:34 p.m.
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                                  Bob Koca -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 2:50 p.m.
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                                    Phil Simborg -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 3:24 p.m.
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                                    Rich Munitz -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 6:03 p.m.
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                                      Joe Russell -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 11:59 p.m.
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                                        Chiva Tafazzoli -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, at 1:55 a.m.
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                                        Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, at 9:35 a.m.
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                                Timothy Chow -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 11:11 p.m.
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                        Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 3:48 p.m.
                    • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                      Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 2:53 p.m.
                  • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                    Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 12:20 p.m.
                • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                  Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 2:26 p.m.
                  • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                    Dan Pelton -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 9:38 a.m.
                    • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                      Chuck Bower -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 2:56 p.m.
                      • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                        Phil Simborg -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 3:21 p.m.
                        • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                          Chuck Bower -- Friday, 6 November 2009, at 5:57 p.m.
                      • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                        Dan Pelton -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, at 7:04 a.m.
              • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
                rew -- Thursday, 5 November 2009, at 12:40 p.m.
      • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
        Jason Lee -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 10:01 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:50 p.m.
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    Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:59 p.m.
    • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 4:37 p.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 3:11 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 3:18 p.m.
    • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
      Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 7:36 p.m.
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    David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 4:16 p.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 5:31 p.m.
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      Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 7:15 p.m.
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      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 10:52 p.m.
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        Carter Mattig -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 4:36 a.m.
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    Alfred Mamlet -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 5:41 p.m.
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    Stick -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 5:41 p.m.
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    Marv Porten -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 6:19 p.m.
    • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
      Dan Pelton -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 5:31 a.m.
  • An ethics issue raised in Paris?
    Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 7:32 p.m.
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    Perry Gartner -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 3:06 a.m.
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    Coolrey -- Wednesday, 4 November 2009, at 7:01 p.m.
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    J. Dawkins -- Monday, 9 November 2009, at 11:24 p.m.