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Onetime shuffle rule

Posted By: Stein Kulseth
Date: Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 9:03 a.m.

In Response To: Onetime shuffle rule (Gregg Cattanach)

all shuffles must be 'complete', in other words you make a full play, look at it, then roll it completely back.

This would be my preferred rule as well. Though I would probably only have the requirement on the complete rollback, not on making the full play. Consider:

A player rolls say 61, uses the 6 quickly to anchor on the bar 24-18, then realizes that he has no sane ace to play. It makes little sense to me to force him to play a bogus 1 somewhere in order to take back his play. If he has no ace at all it can't even be done.

Also I would add that the roll back should be accompanied by a statement that he returns to the original position to try another move. This gives a cue to the opponent that now is the time to check that the original position is indeed restored.

Finally, I would also add that all plays tried out must be legal, to ensure that there is no doubt that an opponent can point out an illegal play in the making.

Messages In This Thread

• Onetime shuffle rule
  Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 8:55 p.m.
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    KenB -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:09 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:20 p.m.
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        Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:46 p.m.
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          adambulldog -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
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          Mike Corbett -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 3:24 a.m.
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            Seth -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:16 p.m.
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      dlevy -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:31 p.m.
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      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 12:33 a.m.
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    Gregg Cattanach -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:13 p.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      Stein Kulseth -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 9:03 a.m.
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    David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:35 p.m.
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    Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:21 p.m.
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    Keene -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:52 p.m.
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    Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:09 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:25 p.m.
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    Seth -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:28 p.m.
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    Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
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      dlevy -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:15 a.m.
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      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:37 a.m.
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        rory -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 5:00 p.m.
        • potential trial
          David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
          • potential trial
            Jason Lee -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 7:27 p.m.
            • potential trial
              Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
              • potential trial
                David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:29 p.m.
                • potential trial
                  Steen Grønbech -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 12:52 p.m.
                  • potential trial
                    David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:07 p.m.
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        joe freedman -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:38 a.m.
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      Dan Pelton -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:30 a.m.
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      Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 1:58 p.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:44 a.m.
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    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 8:44 a.m.
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    Peter G. -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 9:06 a.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 6:38 p.m.
  • Consequences of touch/move
    dlevy -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:50 p.m.
  • a solution
    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 11:50 p.m.
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    alex21 -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:44 a.m.
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      Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
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        Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:43 p.m.
    • In chess ...
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 5:29 a.m.
      • In chess ...
        Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:35 p.m.
        • In chess ...
          Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:41 p.m.
          • In chess ...
            neilkaz -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:56 p.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:54 a.m.
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    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 7:45 a.m.
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    Chiva Tafazzoli -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 12:38 p.m.