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potential trial

Posted By: Rich Munitz
Date: Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 8:06 p.m.

In Response To: potential trial (Jason Lee)

"I'd need a certain number of take-backs per game/match just so that, in the developmental stage, I don't get crushed by some touch that turns out to be devastating."

I think that this highlights the problem with "touch move" in backgammon. Unlike most other board games, the move in backgammon is not an atomic operation. It is actually comprised of multiple "moves" with the actual possibility of up to 8 checkers (player's and opponent's) being relocated with a single play. It is just too easy to make a partial play and realize that it just doesn't work. As I've already stated, the effort to avoid these mishaps will slow down the game and I believe that the damage to the game because of slow play will exceed the damage because players messed up the position and nobody could agree on how to restore it.

I am open minded and I am willing to experiment with touch move in side events including Masters, but would want at least a 2/15 TC for clocks during such a trial as I believe that the per-move time will need to increase.

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  Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 8:55 p.m.
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    KenB -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:09 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:20 p.m.
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        Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:46 p.m.
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          adambulldog -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
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          Mike Corbett -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 3:24 a.m.
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            Seth -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:16 p.m.
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      dlevy -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:31 p.m.
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      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 12:33 a.m.
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    Gregg Cattanach -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:13 p.m.
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      Stein Kulseth -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 9:03 a.m.
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    David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:35 p.m.
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    Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:21 p.m.
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    Keene -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:52 p.m.
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    Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:09 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:25 p.m.
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    Seth -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:28 p.m.
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    Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
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      dlevy -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:15 a.m.
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      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:37 a.m.
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        rory -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 5:00 p.m.
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          David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
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            Jason Lee -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 7:27 p.m.
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              Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
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                David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:29 p.m.
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                  Steen Grønbech -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 12:52 p.m.
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                    David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:07 p.m.
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        joe freedman -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:38 a.m.
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      Dan Pelton -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:30 a.m.
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      Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 1:58 p.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:44 a.m.
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    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 8:44 a.m.
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    Peter G. -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 9:06 a.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 6:38 p.m.
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    dlevy -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:50 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 11:50 p.m.
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    alex21 -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:44 a.m.
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      Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
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        Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:43 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 5:29 a.m.
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        Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:35 p.m.
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          Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:41 p.m.
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            neilkaz -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:56 p.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:54 a.m.
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    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 7:45 a.m.
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    Chiva Tafazzoli -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 12:38 p.m.