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Consequences of touch/move

Posted By: dlevy
Date: Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:50 p.m.

In Response To: Onetime shuffle rule (Nack Ballard)

I played a bunch of online matches today and paid attention to times when I moved and reset. There were few (other than online mis-clicks which won't happen over the board). I found two categories. (1) Large doubles where the resulting positions were so different strategically that I wanted to look at both position. (2) Counting plays -- how many shots? how many blotting numbers? OTB, I would add reaching a position that was easier for pip counting.

If these were taken away would I miss them? No. It would slow me down a bit, but only on plays that I was taking time anyway.

I still think that eliminating illegal plays as a result of reshuffling would outweigh whatever costs.

The only downside is a favorite BG story could not recur. Las Vegas 1982. Semi finals of the main event. San Francisco club director Ralph Powell against Florida expert Art Dickman. Ralph, having hit a checker late in the bearoff, had a checker on the bar against a no-point board. He shuffled his checkers around so much that when he finally moved, he left the checker on the bar. Dickman accepted the move and the same thing happened on Ralph's next roll. This makes Ralph the only player I know to fan twice on a no-point board.

Messages In This Thread

• Onetime shuffle rule
  Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 8:55 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    KenB -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:09 p.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:20 p.m.
      • Onetime shuffle rule
        Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:46 p.m.
        • Onetime shuffle rule
          adambulldog -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
        • Onetime shuffle rule
          Mike Corbett -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 3:24 a.m.
          • Onetime shuffle rule
            Seth -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:16 p.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      dlevy -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:31 p.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 12:33 a.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Gregg Cattanach -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:13 p.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      Stein Kulseth -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 9:03 a.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 9:35 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:21 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Keene -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 10:52 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:09 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:25 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Seth -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, at 11:28 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      dlevy -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:15 a.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:37 a.m.
      • Onetime shuffle rule
        rory -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 5:00 p.m.
        • potential trial
          David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
          • potential trial
            Jason Lee -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 7:27 p.m.
            • potential trial
              Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
              • potential trial
                David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:29 p.m.
                • potential trial
                  Steen Grønbech -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 12:52 p.m.
                  • potential trial
                    David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:07 p.m.
      • Onetime shuffle rule
        joe freedman -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:38 a.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      Dan Pelton -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:30 a.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 1:58 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 4:44 a.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 8:44 a.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Peter G. -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 9:06 a.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 6:38 p.m.
  • Consequences of touch/move
    dlevy -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 10:50 p.m.
  • a solution
    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, at 11:50 p.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    alex21 -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 2:44 a.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
      • Onetime shuffle rule
        Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:43 p.m.
    • In chess ...
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 5:29 a.m.
      • In chess ...
        Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:35 p.m.
        • In chess ...
          Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:41 p.m.
          • In chess ...
            neilkaz -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:56 p.m.
    • Onetime shuffle rule
      Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 6:54 a.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 7:45 a.m.
  • Onetime shuffle rule
    Chiva Tafazzoli -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, at 12:38 p.m.