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Fast-roll tournament ruling?
Posted By: Matt Ryder In Response To: Fast-roll tournament ruling? (Daniel Murphy)
Date: Wednesday, 9 December 2009, at 8:24 p.m.
I'm not sure it necessarily follows that simply because B plays early, his turn hasn't even started.
It does, Matt. Will you agree that it can only be one player's turn at a time? Then review the ABT rules language -- "A player concludes his turn by lifting either or both of his dice.... The opponent of a player who rolls prematurely shall complete his turn and then either let the premature roll stand or require a reroll" -- and then conclude that if Player A has not completed his turn by lifting his dice, then it's not yet Player B's turn.
Okay, I'll grant you that. But isn't the meaning of "turn" in this context reduced to mere semantics if a player may "queue up" a series of 'premature actions' which then 'become' his turn/s only once an opponent has legally completed his own "turn"? (I'm not arguing this here just to be otherwise, but rather to try to come to grips with these concepts.)
[Fast rolling in non-contact positions] is technically 'wrong' but is generally condoned because the non-contact decisions are quite independent.
Is that true? I don't condone it, and in my tournament playing experience, fast rollers were extremely rare (even in noncontact positions) and, I would would say, generally not condoned.
Interesting. I see this all the time in non-contact positions, with both players focused largely on their own home boards and not their opponent's actions.
... but a consistent system of penalties for infractions has yet to be codified.
In part, that is because it would be impossible to anticipate all relevant details of a rules infraction that might suggest the ruling most approprirate to a particular situation. Often, the details really do matter.
Perhaps, but a good deal more could be done in this regard. I find it frankly extraordinary that I cannot look to a standard set of guidelines to determine the process if the dice have been interfered with. Surely such mishaps are relatively commonplace?
As TD you must use your judgment to make rulings that are fair and compatible with particular circumstances. That obligation rather assumes that you will also attempt to be consistent and reasonable.
It puts a TD in a bind if there is no accepted set of guidelines against which one may gauge what is "consistent and reasonable".
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