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Rollouts of related positions

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Monday, 4 January 2010, at 3:32 p.m.

In Response To: Some bot content and two related positions (Timothy Chow)

According to GNU, both of these positions are ND/T. This partly explains how I missed the D/P that slipped in between them.

gnubg	161
tchow	131
Position ID: szYAsCOMd4MDQA Match ID: UQkAAAAACAAA

Alert: wrong double ( -0.090)! [bad]

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.460
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	+0.765
2.	Double, pass	+1.000	+0.235
3.	Double, take	+0.675	-0.090
Proper cube action:		No redouble, take (27.7%)
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player tchow owns 2-cube 0.666 0.197 0.005 - 0.334 0.072 0.001 +0.460 +0.765 Standard error 0.002 0.002 0.000 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.009 Player gnubg owns 4-cube 0.667 0.201 0.005 - 0.333 0.071 0.002 +0.937 +0.675 Standard error 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.010 0.014
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 840369400 and quasi-random dice
Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

gnubg	142
tchow	131
Position ID: 2xoEYCOMd4MDQA Match ID: UQkAAAAACAAA

Alert: wrong double ( -0.103)! [bad]

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.407
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	+0.719
2.	Double, pass	+1.000	+0.281
3.	Double, take	+0.615	-0.103
Proper cube action:		No redouble, take (26.9%)
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player tchow owns 2-cube 0.654 0.184 0.005 - 0.346 0.089 0.001 +0.407 +0.719 Standard error 0.001 0.002 0.001 - 0.001 0.002 0.000 0.004 0.008 Player gnubg owns 4-cube 0.667 0.186 0.006 - 0.333 0.084 0.001 +0.880 +0.615 Standard error 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.002 0.000 0.010 0.013
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 845226266 and quasi-random dice
Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• Money game cube action
  Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 1:15 a.m.
  • Money game cube action
    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 4:32 p.m.
    • Money game cube action
      Stick -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 4:40 p.m.
      • Money game cube action
        neilkaz -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 4:43 p.m.
      • Money game cube action
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 4:51 p.m.
        • Money game cube action
          neilkaz -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 4:54 p.m.
    • Money game cube action
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 4:42 p.m.
    • Money game cube action
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 4:49 p.m.
      • Money game cube action
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Money game cube action
    Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 5:24 p.m.
  • Money game cube action
    Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 8:33 p.m.
  • Money game cube action
    Andreas -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 10:48 p.m.
  • Some bot content and two related positions
    Timothy Chow -- Friday, 1 January 2010, at 1:21 a.m.
    • Some bot content and two related positions
      Nack Ballard -- Friday, 1 January 2010, at 11:01 p.m.
    • Rollouts of related positions
      Timothy Chow -- Monday, 4 January 2010, at 3:32 p.m.
  • Rollout of original position
    Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 9:14 p.m.