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Rules of backgammon
Posted By: Henrik Bukkjaer In Response To: Rules of backgammon (Stick)
Date: Wednesday, 17 March 2010, at 8:54 a.m.
>> ...if clocks then baffle boxes...
No it was the other way around. If not baffleboxes because you see one scenario where you do not trust it, then why clocks in the same scenario?
BTW: I play all my matches with clocks if I'm allowed to, and I almost never play a match with bafflebox (unless it's speedgammon and I have the option). I see clocks as much more important than baffleboxes, but I think the rules and discussions on using them is somewhat analogue.
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>> So you're telling me that your TDs know the difference between a rigged baffle box and a legit one? Or that they'll say 'no' on the basis of they don't trust the individual?
I assume that the most obvious rigged baffleboxes would be spotted if TDs were to examine them - at least, it's an important requirement to state in the rules, that such equipment must be "approved".
I have yet to see rigged baffleboxes myself, which is why I've asked a couple of times for examples of how to cheat using such a box, so I might not have enough knowledge to answer your question.
But say that a dubious player insist on his match being played with a bafflebox and he brings out his own box. His opponent doesn't trust him one bit, that the box in question is a fair and legit box. The opponent then asks the TD to approve the box, saying he doesn't trust it. This would be the perfect spot for the TD to pull out his own box and say, use this! End of story.
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>> (yet still allowed him to enter the tournament)
If TDs will allow a known cheater into their tournaments, I cannot tell. I imagine that they would in some cases, but would reject them in most cases. Maybe the TD doesn't see a player as a former cheater, the way an opponent does (they could have different history). Maybe the TD trusts that the cheater has moved on, since that incident 12 years ago, and let the doubt benefit the player? I don't know, that's up to the TD to determine, and I guess it partly depends upon which kind of tourney he's running? Also what constitutes a known cheater? People have different opinions on that subject. Is it the use of crooked equipment (obvious), or is it also the occasional forgetting to write on the score sheet, or turning the cube in the Crawford game, etc.
Luckily we do not have known cheaters currently playing in the Danish tournaments - and it have been this way for years. So for me, the question you ask simply is theoretical.
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