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Chess vs. backgammon

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Friday, 14 May 2010, at 5:32 p.m.

In Response To: Chess vs. backgammon (Maik Stiebler)

400 Elo in chess is not unreasonable for a total beginner, especially if you include children.

In backgammon the trouble with looking at the top level is that the dice quickly start taking over. I wouldn't say that backgammon players "rapidly approach perfect play" but that they rapidly approach the point where luck dominates.

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