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Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply

Posted By: Casper van der Tak
Date: Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 7:04 a.m.

In Response To: Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply (Nack Ballard)

I might order the book (and Marty's Praxis) for some further study. This particular play, I know I would have gotten right OTB, and would also have gotten right pre-bot. Control the board, balance in spare distribution, does not start the strip the mid, stronger board.

One of the things that surprise me is the 63 play. From bot rollouts of similar positions, I have learned that this probably should be played 13/7 8/5*, which was not even on my radar screen before bot rollouts (I'd play 24/18 8/5* or 24/15, more often the first). And if I play such move myself, the results are terrible (same for 64 P on the opening roll). Does the book discuss the 13/7 8/5* play as well?

Messages In This Thread

• Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
  KenB -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 3:21 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 3:40 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:08 p.m.
      • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
        neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:28 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, Snowie
    Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 4:00 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollouts (two), GnuBG
    Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 4:21 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollouts (two), GnuBG
      Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:07 p.m.
      • Opening 54 rollouts (two), GnuBG
        Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:24 p.m.
        • Opening 54 rollouts (two), GnuBG
          Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:34 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
    Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 4:55 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      phil simborg -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 5:46 p.m.
      • Opening move data, three bots
        Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:11 p.m.
        • Opening move data, three bots
          Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:25 p.m.
          • Opening move data, three bots
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:38 p.m.
        • Opening 21 XG 4 ply 46k
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:26 p.m.
        • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:38 p.m.
          • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:56 p.m.
            • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
              neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:58 p.m.
              • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
                Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:41 p.m.
              • OK can start 4 ply RO in morning
                Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
    Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:15 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:27 p.m.
      • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
        Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:02 p.m.
        • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
          Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:25 p.m.
          • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 9:30 p.m.
            • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
              Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 7:04 a.m.
              • 54S-63
                Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:09 p.m.
                • 54S-63
                  Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:33 p.m.
                  • 54S-63
                    Stick -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:53 p.m.
                  • 54S-63
                    Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 4:36 p.m.
                    • 54S-63
                      Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 4:41 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:48 p.m.
      • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
        Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:58 p.m.
        • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
          Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:07 p.m.
        • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:25 p.m.
          • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
            Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:58 p.m.
      • html tips: bullet lists
        KenB -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:26 p.m.
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          Stick -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:41 p.m.
          • html tips: bullet lists
            KenB -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:44 p.m.
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          Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 6 June 2010, at 7:56 p.m.
          • html tips: bullet lists
            Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 6 June 2010, at 8:11 p.m.
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              Nack Ballard -- Monday, 7 June 2010, at 10:23 p.m.
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                Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 7 June 2010, at 10:47 p.m.
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                  Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 8 June 2010, at 12:07 a.m.
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                  Gregg Cattanach -- Wednesday, 9 June 2010, at 6:25 p.m.
                  • Thanks to you too, Gregg :) *NM*
                    Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 2:55 a.m.
  • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
    David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:21 p.m.
    • Opening 54 rollout, XG 3-ply
      Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 11:38 p.m.
  • ...depending on whom I am playing ...?
    Klaus Evers -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 9:36 p.m.
    • ...depending on whom I am playing ...?
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:34 p.m.
      • ...depending on whom I am playing ...?
        Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 11:29 p.m.
    • ...depending on whom I am playing ...?
      KenB -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:28 p.m.