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Rollout Result Posted, Analysis Repeated

Posted By: Paul Weaver
Date: Monday, 9 August 2010, at 4:00 a.m.

In Response To: 65R-33B-42 (storm)

I am not sure whether a rollout can be posted, but I am quite certain that a rollout result can be.

I started my project of compiling several hundred third-roll positions, rolled out by Jellyfish, in 1998. I put together a notebook four or five inches thick with a few hundred pages, four diagrams on most pages, hand-drawn blue and red diagrams. If anyone ever puts together a backgammon museum, I will donate this notebook.

I remember this one: 24/18 by a lot. Nack calls this a "deflection" play. It keeps your opponent from unstacking and making his 5pt or 4pt with 31 42 51 62. You lose only 7 pips when you are hit, and you usually get at least 6 return shots. Opponent's 65 64 62 are lousy hits.

There's a subtle vig in playing 24/18. Steams up some of your opponents when they miss and you get to hear them whine and cry. They cannot believe they missed a triple shot! (How truly shocking and unjust!) I love whiners and crybabies and I love to hear them cry and whine. Sweet music to my ears.

Of course, just as slow players never realize they play slowly, superwhiners always deny that they whine.

	is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 155 Money session Jacoby Beaver pip: 156 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=----b-E-C---cF-b-c-e----A-:0:0:1:42:0:0:3:0:10
to play 42

1.	Rollout1	24/18	eq: -0.278
	Player: Opponent: 43.65% (G:6.46% B:0.27%) 56.35% (G:14.35% B:0.38%) Conf: ± 0.014 (-0.292...-0.264) Duration: 28 minutes 37 seconds
2.	Rollout1	24/22 6/2	eq: -0.308 (-0.029)
	Player: Opponent: 43.58% (G:7.06% B:0.34%) 56.42% (G:16.77% B:0.44%) Conf: ± 0.015 (-0.323...-0.293) Duration: 26 minutes 46 seconds
3.	Rollout1	13/7	eq: -0.309 (-0.031)
	Player: Opponent: 42.87% (G:8.31% B:0.34%) 57.13% (G:14.30% B:0.52%) Conf: ± 0.013 (-0.322...-0.296) Duration: 29 minutes 55 seconds
1 2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

eXtreme Gammon Version: 1.20

Messages In This Thread

• 65R-33B-42
  storm -- Sunday, 8 August 2010, at 8:16 a.m.
  • 65R-33B-42
    Stick -- Sunday, 8 August 2010, at 9:30 a.m.
    • 65R-33B-42
      Casper van der Tak -- Sunday, 8 August 2010, at 10:23 a.m.
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    neilkaz -- Sunday, 8 August 2010, at 4:20 p.m.
  • 65R-33B-42
    Paul Weaver -- Sunday, 8 August 2010, at 7:21 p.m.
    • 65R-33B-42
      Nack Ballard -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 2:52 a.m.
      • My reply to main post , a nactation request, should have been here *NM*
        storm -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 10:32 a.m.
  • Rollout Result Posted, Analysis Repeated
    Paul Weaver -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 4:00 a.m.
    • Proposing 5k as minimum standard for early game rollouts
      Nack Ballard -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 8:00 a.m.
      • Extending to 5184
        Paul Weaver -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 12:02 p.m.
        • Extending to 5184
          Nack Ballard -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 12:39 p.m.
        • 10368 Rollout Result of 65R-33B-42
          Paul Weaver -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 7:30 p.m.
  • 65R-33B-42
    storm -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 10:28 a.m.
    • 65R-33B-42
      Nack Ballard -- Monday, 9 August 2010, at 12:08 p.m.