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OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Monday, 25 October 2010, at 10:40 p.m.

In Response To: OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long (Bill Riles)

Bill, that you are easily peeved and inclined to take (and make) comments, arguments and disagreements personally is old news. I care as much about your oddly recurrent urge to call me names as, I imagine, Coach Stoops cares whether you call him a moron. LOL at the playground rhetoric. Get a grip. Or don't, for all I care. Does seem a little odd, though, that a grown man can't be comfortable with his own opinions without disparaging other persons -- you've done that time and again in this forum.

More interestingly, this two-point conversion chart says go for 1, but this one says go for 2. The first chart is apparently credited to Tommy Prothro in the 1960's, and the second to Dick Vermeil in the 1970's. Neither charts factors in time remaining or conversion success rate. This chart from 2004 does, and suggests that, down 9 (after the TD) with 3 minutes remaining, going for two points is correct if the 2-point conversion rate exceeds 40%.

Messages In This Thread

• OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
  Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 1:49 a.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Stick -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 2:34 a.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Michael Nielsen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:00 a.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Michael Nielsen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:36 a.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:42 a.m.
          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
            Michael Nielsen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:50 a.m.
          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
            Dave -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 4:27 a.m.
          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:23 p.m.
            • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
              Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:44 p.m.
              • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                Steve Mellen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 6:12 p.m.
                • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                  Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 4:18 a.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:13 p.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:38 p.m.
                • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                  Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:44 p.m.
              • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 6:19 p.m.
                • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                  Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 7:09 p.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 7:52 p.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:01 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:47 p.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Steve Mellen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:48 p.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:59 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 11:26 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:11 a.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Barry Silliman -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 11:53 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:13 a.m.
                        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                          Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:52 a.m.
                          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:18 a.m.
                            • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                              Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:39 a.m.
                          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                            Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:33 a.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 10:40 p.m.
                    • Lower OT coefficient -- backgammon software analogy
                      Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 4:19 p.m.
                      • Lower OT coefficient -- backgammon software analogy
                        Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 4:56 p.m.
                        • Lower OT coefficient -- backgammon software analogy
                          Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 8:49 p.m.
                      • Lower OT coefficient -- backgammon software analogy
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 5:09 p.m.
                        • En Ingles, por favor *NM*
                          Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 12:35 a.m.
                          • En Ingles, por favor
                            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 2:19 a.m.
                            • thanks to both of you, but...
                              Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 2:06 p.m.
                              • thanks to both of you, but...
                                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 2:36 p.m.
                          • En Ingles, por favor
                            Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 2:29 a.m.
              • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 6:53 p.m.
                • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                  Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 7:15 p.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 7:33 p.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:06 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:59 p.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:32 a.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Stick -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:51 a.m.
        • Don't tell me you missed...
          Chuck Bower -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:36 p.m.
          • Don't tell me you missed...
            Stick -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 7:02 a.m.
  • Going For One or Two When Down by 15pts
    Paul Weaver -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:11 a.m.
    • Am I breaking Stick's rule about spoiling a prop?
      Chuck Bower -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:50 p.m.
      • Am I breaking Stick's rule about spoiling a prop?
        Keene -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:15 a.m.
    • Going For One or Two When Down by 15pts
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:30 a.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:48 a.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 12:27 p.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Steve Mellen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 1:35 p.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 2:30 p.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Steve Mellen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 2:46 p.m.
  • Observation
    Paul Weaver -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:26 p.m.
    • Observation
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:47 p.m.
    • Observation
      Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 11:38 p.m.
  • What a difference two years makes
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:52 p.m.
  • .Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason
    joe freedman -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:22 a.m.
    • .Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:24 a.m.
    • .Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 2:38 a.m.
      • .Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:29 a.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Joe Russell -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 6:03 a.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 10:35 a.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:19 p.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:33 p.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 2:41 p.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Joe Russell -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 10:28 p.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:07 p.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:13 p.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:38 p.m.
          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
            Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 11:43 a.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 5:11 p.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Gregg Cattanach -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 12:19 p.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Joe Russell -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 9:32 a.m.