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.Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason

Posted By: joe freedman
Date: Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:22 a.m.

In Response To: OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long (Bill Riles)

I have not read all the posts on this (not have I watched any football this year), so might be duplicating some others' wisdom. From the standpoint of pure logic, it does not make any difference whehter one attempts the 2 pts the first time, or the second time, unless:

a) the right approach is to attempt 2 pts BOTH times, in order to win (rather than tie the game)

b) there might be more than one additional possession, in which case it might not matter (e.g., if a FG can also be scored; or

c) it is psychologically easier to score two points on the second touchdown, where it clearly matters.

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• OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
  Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 1:49 a.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Stick -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 2:34 a.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Michael Nielsen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:00 a.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Michael Nielsen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:36 a.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:42 a.m.
          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
            Michael Nielsen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:50 a.m.
          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
            Dave -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 4:27 a.m.
          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:23 p.m.
            • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
              Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:44 p.m.
              • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                Steve Mellen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 6:12 p.m.
                • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                  Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 4:18 a.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:13 p.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:38 p.m.
                • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                  Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:44 p.m.
              • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 6:19 p.m.
                • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                  Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 7:09 p.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 7:52 p.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:01 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:47 p.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Steve Mellen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:48 p.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:59 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 11:26 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:11 a.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Barry Silliman -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 11:53 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:13 a.m.
                        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                          Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:52 a.m.
                          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:18 a.m.
                            • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                              Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:39 a.m.
                          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                            Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:33 a.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 10:40 p.m.
                    • Lower OT coefficient -- backgammon software analogy
                      Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 4:19 p.m.
                      • Lower OT coefficient -- backgammon software analogy
                        Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 4:56 p.m.
                        • Lower OT coefficient -- backgammon software analogy
                          Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 8:49 p.m.
                      • Lower OT coefficient -- backgammon software analogy
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 5:09 p.m.
                        • En Ingles, por favor *NM*
                          Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 12:35 a.m.
                          • En Ingles, por favor
                            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 2:19 a.m.
                            • thanks to both of you, but...
                              Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 2:06 p.m.
                              • thanks to both of you, but...
                                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 2:36 p.m.
                          • En Ingles, por favor
                            Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 2:29 a.m.
              • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 6:53 p.m.
                • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                  Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 7:15 p.m.
                  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                    Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 7:33 p.m.
                    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:06 p.m.
                      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
                        Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:59 p.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:32 a.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Stick -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 3:51 a.m.
        • Don't tell me you missed...
          Chuck Bower -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:36 p.m.
          • Don't tell me you missed...
            Stick -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 7:02 a.m.
  • Going For One or Two When Down by 15pts
    Paul Weaver -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:11 a.m.
    • Am I breaking Stick's rule about spoiling a prop?
      Chuck Bower -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:50 p.m.
      • Am I breaking Stick's rule about spoiling a prop?
        Keene -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 12:15 a.m.
    • Going For One or Two When Down by 15pts
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:30 a.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:48 a.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 12:27 p.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Steve Mellen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 1:35 p.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 2:30 p.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Steve Mellen -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 2:46 p.m.
  • Observation
    Paul Weaver -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:26 p.m.
    • Observation
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 5:47 p.m.
    • Observation
      Bob Koca -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 11:38 p.m.
  • What a difference two years makes
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:52 p.m.
  • .Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason
    joe freedman -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:22 a.m.
    • .Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:24 a.m.
    • .Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 2:38 a.m.
      • .Two point conversion: a Critique of Pure Reason
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:29 a.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Joe Russell -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 6:03 a.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 10:35 a.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:19 p.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 1:33 p.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 2:41 p.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Joe Russell -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 10:28 p.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:07 p.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:13 p.m.
        • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
          Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:38 p.m.
          • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
            Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 11:43 a.m.
      • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 5:11 p.m.
    • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
      Gregg Cattanach -- Wednesday, 27 October 2010, at 12:19 p.m.
  • OT -- Weekend Football Observations -- Long
    Joe Russell -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 9:32 a.m.