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Better tools, less disinformation

Posted By: Rich Munitz
Date: Monday, 1 November 2010, at 10:21 p.m.

In Response To: Better tools, less disinformation (Bob Koca)

What are we talking about here. There is the question of whether the equity is defined - meaning does it exist. And there is the question of whether we can calculate it absolutely in finite time. The oracle knows the result of any infinite calculation as long as it converges, and such an equity is classified as defined in my book.

Given the finite number of backgammon positions (in fact the smaller subset of positions reachable from the opening position), and if we presume that the probability that a backgammon game ends in a finite number of moves is 100%, it seems obvious that the exact equity calculations of all positions must converge.

Given enough time and computational power, the equity of any backgammon position could be calculated in finite time to within any arbitrarily small, but non-zero degree of accuracy desired.

Messages In This Thread

• Why are they better?
  phil simborg -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 2:41 a.m.
  • None of the above?
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 3:57 a.m.
  • Why are they better?
    David Rockwell -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 4:32 a.m.
  • Better tools, less disinformation
    Casper van der Tak -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 5:26 a.m.
    • Better tools, less disinformation
      Keene -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 6:01 a.m.
      • Better tools, less disinformation
        Casper van der Tak -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 6:14 a.m.
        • Better tools, less disinformation
          Timothy Chow -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 2:28 p.m.
          • Better tools, less disinformation
            Chuck Bower -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 9:14 p.m.
      • Better tools, less disinformation
        mtuhtan -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 1:18 p.m.
        • Better tools, less disinformation
          Leonardo Jerkovic -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 1:59 p.m.
          • Better tools, less disinformation
            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 2:28 p.m.
            • Better tools, less disinformation
              Timothy Chow -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 2:31 p.m.
            • Better tools, less disinformation
              mtuhtan -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 3:15 p.m.
              • Better tools, less disinformation
                Rich Munitz -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 4:44 p.m.
                • Better tools, less disinformation
                  eXtreme Gammon -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 5:09 p.m.
                  • Better tools, less disinformation
                    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 6:01 p.m.
                • Better tools, less disinformation
                  Timothy Chow -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 6:11 p.m.
                  • Better tools, less disinformation
                    Bob Koca -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 6:35 p.m.
                    • Better tools, less disinformation
                      eXtreme Gammon -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 7:53 p.m.
                      • Better tools, less disinformation
                        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 8:42 p.m.
                        • Better tools, less disinformation
                          Bob Koca -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 8:53 p.m.
                          • Better tools, less disinformation
                            Ray Kershaw -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 9:35 p.m.
                            • Better tools, less disinformation
                              Frank Berger -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 10:17 p.m.
                            • Better tools, less disinformation
                              eXtreme Gammon -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 12:25 p.m.
                          • Better tools, less disinformation
                            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 10:21 p.m.
                            • Better tools, less disinformation
                              Maik Stiebler -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 10:45 p.m.
                              • Better tools, less disinformation
                                Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 12:22 a.m.
                            • Better tools, less disinformation
                              Bob Koca -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 11:45 p.m.
                              • Better tools, less disinformation
                                Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 12:30 a.m.
                                • Better tools, less disinformation
                                  eXtreme Gammon -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 12:50 a.m.
                                  • Better tools, less disinformation
                                    Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 4:54 a.m.
                                    • Better tools, less disinformation
                                      Maik Stiebler -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 9:18 a.m.
                                • Better tools, less disinformation
                                  Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 12:52 a.m.
                  • Better tools, less disinformation
                    Bob Koca -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 6:39 p.m.
                    • Better tools, less disinformation
                      Timothy Chow -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 11:35 p.m.
      • Better tools, less disinformation
        phil simborg -- Friday, 5 November 2010, at 9:55 a.m.
  • Why are they better?
    Keene -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 6:10 a.m.
  • Why are they better?
    higonefive -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 9:20 a.m.
  • Why are they better?
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 2:15 p.m.
  • Talent is Overrated
    Timothy Chow -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 2:45 p.m.
    • Talent is Overrated
      Sam Pottle -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 1:19 a.m.
  • Why are they better?
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 1 November 2010, at 4:22 p.m.