BGonline.org Forums

Gammons/Backgammons

Posted By: Chris Bray
Date: Wednesday, 22 June 2011, at 12:24 p.m.

In Response To: Gammons/Backgammons (eXtreme Gammon)

Sadly I have been busy with my day job for the last couple of dayssso missed this debate. Firstly my thanks to Ray Kershaw for defending my corner in my absence!

The figures given in my books tend to reflect the current thinking at the time they are written.

20% was the perceived gammon rate for years but I don't that was based on much empirical evidence. It wasn't until Hal Heinrich challenged that figure, in part based on his huge file of matches, that the debate reignited.

Having read all the foregoing posts I still don't think we have a clear answer to the question of gammon rates. It looks to be in the 20-28% range but where exactly the answer lies within that spectrum certainly isn't clear to me.

I think what is more importnat is understanding/learning the average gammon rate in certain middle game position types so that can knowledge can inform one's cube decisions over the board.

For backgammons I think 1% will do as a working figure as except in extreme situations it is there purely as a point of information!

Regards

Chris

Messages In This Thread

• Gammons/Backgammons
  Seth -- Monday, 20 June 2011, at 1:19 p.m.
  • Gammons/Backgammons
    Tom Keith -- Monday, 20 June 2011, at 3:31 p.m.
    • Gammons/Backgammons
      eXtreme Gammon -- Monday, 20 June 2011, at 4:09 p.m.
      • Gammons/Backgammons
        Chris Bray -- Wednesday, 22 June 2011, at 12:24 p.m.
        • Gammons/Backgammons
          Seth -- Wednesday, 22 June 2011, at 1:30 p.m.
  • Gammons/Backgammons
    Timothy Chow -- Monday, 20 June 2011, at 3:56 p.m.
    • Gammons/Backgammons
      Michael Petch -- Thursday, 23 June 2011, at 6:27 p.m.
  • some real data (w/cube)
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 20 June 2011, at 4:09 p.m.
  • Gammons/Backgammons
    Ray Kershaw -- Monday, 20 June 2011, at 7:22 p.m.
    • Gammons/Backgammons
      Seth -- Monday, 20 June 2011, at 9:46 p.m.
      • Gammons/Backgammons
        Frank Berger -- Monday, 20 June 2011, at 9:50 p.m.
        • Gammons/Backgammons
          Seth -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 2:09 p.m.
      • Gammons/Backgammons
        Ray Kershaw -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 7:16 a.m.
        • Gammons/Backgammons
          Seth -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 2:07 p.m.
          • Gammons/Backgammons
            Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 4:12 p.m.
          • Bray's quote
            Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 4:27 p.m.
            • Bray's quote
              Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 7:56 p.m.
              • Bray's quote
                Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 10:12 p.m.
                • Bray's quote
                  Ray Kershaw -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 10:41 p.m.
                • Bray's quote
                  Henrik Bukkjaer -- Wednesday, 22 June 2011, at 4:51 p.m.
          • Gammons/Backgammons
            Ray Kershaw -- Tuesday, 21 June 2011, at 5:01 p.m.