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21$-41U-31H-52H-51H-41H-31

Posted By: Taper_Mike
Date: Monday, 24 June 2013, at 3:41 a.m.

In Response To: 21$-41U-31H-52H-51H-41H-31 — Unlimited Games — 2-ply GnuBg Trunc (Stick)

21$-41U-31H-52H-51H-41H-31
Position ID: 4HPkARFgjjwgWQ Match ID: cIkFAAAAAAAA

You can't roll out backgame/developing backgame/early game many men positions like this with mediocre settings and esp. not with GNU. Yeah, I knew that. Using a 5-ply trunc on the 7th roll of the game to estimate the result of what might turn out to be a 30-, 40-, or 50-turn backgame is not going to work. Still, I think the trunc does a better job finding the top plays than Tim’s 15k rollout. That’s why I mentioned the buggy versions of GnuBg. As I am running GnuBg version 0.90, I won’t dedicate the resources to match Tim’s rollout, and find out if that theory is right. It would be interesting, however, to see how well the new neural nets in GnuBg version 1.00 handle this position. Mike

Messages In This Thread

• Inchoate backgame
  Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 30 December 2010, at 6:57 p.m.
  • Inchoate backgame
    Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 30 December 2010, at 7:03 p.m.
  • Inchoate backgame
    Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 December 2010, at 8:48 p.m.
  • Inchoate backgame
    phil simborg -- Thursday, 30 December 2010, at 11:42 p.m.
  • Inchoate backgame
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 31 December 2010, at 3:45 a.m.
    • Inchoate backgame
      mamabear -- Saturday, 1 January 2011, at 10:02 p.m.
  • Inchoate backgame
    neilkaz -- Friday, 31 December 2010, at 5:12 a.m.
    • Inchoate backgame
      christian munk-christensen -- Sunday, 2 January 2011, at 5:22 p.m.
  • Contradictory rollouts! Read all about it here
    Timothy Chow -- Friday, 31 December 2010, at 8:32 p.m.
    • Contradictory rollouts! Read all about it here
      Stick -- Friday, 31 December 2010, at 10:53 p.m.
      • Contradictory rollouts! Read all about it here
        Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 1 January 2011, at 12:41 a.m.
        • Contradictory rollouts! Read all about it here
          Stick -- Saturday, 1 January 2011, at 12:57 a.m.
  • 21$-41U-31H-52H-51H-41H-31 — Unlimited Games — 2-ply GnuBg Trunc
    Taper_Mike -- Monday, 24 June 2013, at 12:59 a.m.
    • 21$-41U-31H-52H-51H-41H-31 — Unlimited Games — 2-ply GnuBg Trunc
      Stick -- Monday, 24 June 2013, at 1:58 a.m.
      • 21$-41U-31H-52H-51H-41H-31
        Taper_Mike -- Monday, 24 June 2013, at 3:41 a.m.
        • GNU version 1.00
          Neil Robins -- Tuesday, 25 June 2013, at 11:44 p.m.
          • GNU version 1.00
            Michael Petch -- Wednesday, 26 June 2013, at 4:21 a.m.
            • GNU version 1.00
              Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 26 June 2013, at 5:36 a.m.
            • GNU version 1.00
              Tom Keith -- Wednesday, 26 June 2013, at 1:03 p.m.
              • GNU version 1.00
                Michael Petch -- Wednesday, 26 June 2013, at 3:49 p.m.
                • GNU version 1.00
                  Tom Keith -- Wednesday, 26 June 2013, at 4:50 p.m.
            • GNU version 1.00
              Seth -- Friday, 28 June 2013, at 10:05 p.m.
        • 21$-41U-31H-52H-51H-41H-31
          Philippe Michel -- Wednesday, 26 June 2013, at 9:06 p.m.
        • 21$-41U-31H-52H-51H-41H-31
          Philippe Michel -- Wednesday, 26 June 2013, at 9:12 p.m.