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Cube rolllouts after 51K

Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Thursday, 10 April 2014, at 10:38 p.m.

In Response To: A couple of followup questions (Timothy Chow)





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 166
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 144
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-a-aB-DaC-B-bBbc--Ab-c--A-:0:0:1:51:0:0:3:0:10

42P-43S-65R-21P-41K-1-61U-F-52S-41U-43K-31-41L-65S-64H-41U-
-33D-52R-62R-31H-61U-62P-61D-324-42H-41U-41K-1-F-43H-31-51


The original problem (with cube centered) is shown above. Blue on roll, has a 51 to play. (Rollout summaries and details can be seen here.). The rest of this post responds to Tim's inquiry:

........After K, what does the cube action look like after a weak response?

Below are (nacubracs) for cube decisions that arise after Blue plays K (Kill, 8/7* 8/3*), and White rolls/plays F (Fans), 5 (enters on the 5pt), 3 (enters on the 3pt), or 1 (enters on the 1pt). These positions are in ascending order of strength from White's perspective, and descending order from Blue's perspective.

There are two relevant cube placements. Either the cube is still centered (see the first set of brackets in each row) or Blue owns the cube (the second brackets). The first group has evaluations; the second group has rollout results.

Evaluations (XGR++)

........If White F ...[D 1495–553] ....[X 1058+437]
........If White 5.....[D 1103–351] ....[R 1104–227]
........If White 2.....[D 1003–228] ....[R 1005–145]
........If White 1.......[D 770–37] ........[X 779–13]

ROLLOUTS (moves 3-ply, cube decisions XGR)

........If White F ................................[X 1032+400] 5
........If White 5 .................................[R 1055–140] 5
........If White 2 ...................................[R 953–119] 5
........If White 1 ......[N 705–5] 25 .......[X 754–43] 5

Cube action letter: D = Double, N = No double, R = Redouble, X = no redouble.
Equities are in thousandths of a point and if the cube is given (D or R) then a take is assumed (pass = 1000 always, too obvious to list).
After the minus sign is the size of the error if Blue chooses the opposite/wrong action (e.g., N or R in the fourth row). [Exception: If too good to double, the error for doubling is already implied by the difference from 1000; instead add the + number to get the additional information of the terrible-take equity.]
Explanation of nacubracs

If the number to the left of the minus sign is close to 1000, or if the number on the right of the minus sign is small, a close cube decision is involved.

As you can see in the chart above, XG's evaluation is optimistic for Blue (1.058 vs 1.032, 1.104 vs 1.055, 1.005 vs .953, .770 vs .705, and .779 vs .754) for all five of the cube decisions I rolled out. [For the fourth position, this optimism causes XG to double early.]

For further clarification, row by row: (1) The X being over 1000 tells you Blue is too good to redouble. (2) The D or R over 1000 tells you it's double/pass or redouble/pass. (3) The D or R under 1000 tells you it's double/take or redouble/take. (4) The N and X tells you the position is not good enough for Blue to double or redouble (as the number is under 1000).

Detailed rollout results are shown below.

Nack





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 176
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 138
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=ba-AB-DAA-B-bBbc--Ab-c--A-:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10

42P-43S-65R-21P-41K-1-61U-F-52S-41U-43K-31-41L-65S-64H-41U-
-33D-52R-62R-31H-61U-62P-61D-324-42H-41U-C-41K-1-F-43H-31-51-F-R
[X 1032+400] "<=5


Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 71.71% (G:43.37% B:2.86%) 71.48% (G:43.78% B:3.05%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 28.29% (G:5.79% B:0.33%) 28.52% (G:5.93% B:0.38%)
Cubeless Equities +0.835 +1.669
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+1.032±0.006 (+1.025..+1.038)
Redouble/Take:+1.431 (+0.400)±0.011 (+1.420..+1.443)
Redouble/Pass:+1.000 (-0.032)
Best Cube action: Too good to redouble / Pass
Percentage of wrong take needed to make the double decision right: 7.3%
Rollout details
5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 92861368
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 1 hour 56 minutes





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 171
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 138
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=aa-ABaDAA-B-bBbc--Ab-c--A-:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10

42P-43S-65R-21P-41K-1-61U-F-52S-41U-43K-31-41L-65S-64H-41U-
-33D-52R-62R-31H-61U-62P-61D-324-42H-41U-C-41K-1-F-43H-31-51-5-R
[R 1055–140] "<=5


Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 67.46% (G:36.44% B:2.39%) 67.28% (G:36.75% B:2.64%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 32.54% (G:7.63% B:0.49%) 32.72% (G:7.72% B:0.49%)
Cubeless Equities +0.656 +1.315
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0.860 (-0.140)±0.006 (+0.854..+0.866)
Redouble/Take:+1.055 (+0.055)±0.012 (+1.043..+1.067)
Redouble/Pass:+1.000
Best Cube action: Redouble / Pass
Rollout details
5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 65904545
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 3 hours 55 minutes





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 174
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 138
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=aaaAB-DAA-B-bBbc--Ab-c--A-:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10

42P-43S-65R-21P-41K-1-61U-F-52S-41U-43K-31-41L-65S-64H-41U-
-33D-52R-62R-31H-61U-62P-61D-324-42H-41U-C-41K-1-F-43H-31-51-2-R
[R 953-119] "<=5


Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 65.85% (G:35.55% B:2.54%) 65.68% (G:36.16% B:2.79%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 34.15% (G:8.20% B:0.50%) 34.32% (G:8.39% B:0.51%)
Cubeless Equities +0.611 +1.228
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0.833 (-0.119)±0.007 (+0.827..+0.840)
Redouble/Take:+0.953±0.012 (+0.941..+0.965)
Redouble/Pass:+1.000 (+0.047)
Best Cube action: Redouble / Take
Rollout details
5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 65904545
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 1 hour 53 minutes





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 175
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 138
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=ab-AB-DAA-B-bBbc--Ab-c--A-:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10

42P-43S-65R-21P-41K-1-61U-F-52S-41U-43K-31-41L-65S-64H-41U-
-33D-52R-62R-31H-61U-62P-61D-324-42H-41U-41K-1-F-43H-31-51-1-C
[N 705–5] "<=25


Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 64.05% (G:27.62% B:2.99%) 63.88% (G:27.68% B:3.22%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 35.95% (G:8.31% B:0.44%) 36.12% (G:8.54% B:0.46%)
Cubeless Equities +0.500 +0.993
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.705±0.004 (+0.702..+0.709)
Double/Take:+0.701 (-0.005)±0.005 (+0.695..+0.706)
Double/Pass:+1.000 (+0.295)
Best Cube action: No double / Take
Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 1.5%
Rollout details
25920 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 90634172
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:91.5%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 13 hours 25 minutes




White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 175
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 138
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=ab-AB-DAA-B-bBbc--Ab-c--A-:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10

42P-43S-65R-21P-41K-1-61U-F-52S-41U-43K-31-41L-65S-64H-41U-
-33D-52R-62R-31H-61U-62P-61D-324-42H-41U-C-41K-1-F-43H-31-51-1-R
[X 754–43] "<=5


Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 64.02% (G:27.70% B:3.04%) 63.88% (G:27.81% B:3.28%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 35.98% (G:8.43% B:0.48%) 36.12% (G:8.51% B:0.47%)
Cubeless Equities +0.499 +0.997
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0.754±0.007 (+0.747..+0.761)
Redouble/Take:+0.711 (-0.043)±0.012 (+0.699..+0.722)
Redouble/Pass:+1.000 (+0.246)
Best Cube action: No redouble / Take
Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 12.9%
Rollout details
5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 92861368
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 2 hours 46 minutes

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