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Cube rolllouts after 51K
Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Thursday, 10 April 2014, at 10:38 p.m.
In Response To: A couple of followup questions (Timothy Chow)
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 166Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 144
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=aaBDaCBbBbcAbcA:0:0:1:51:0:0:3:0:10 42P43S65R21P41K161UF52S41U43K3141L65S64H41U
33D52R62R31H61U62P61D32442H41U41K1F43H3151
The original problem (with cube centered) is shown above. Blue on roll, has a 51 to play. (Rollout summaries and details can be seen here.). The rest of this post responds to Tim's inquiry:
........After K, what does the cube action look like after a weak response?
Below are (nacubracs) for cube decisions that arise after Blue plays K (Kill, 8/7* 8/3*), and White rolls/plays F (Fans), 5 (enters on the 5pt), 3 (enters on the 3pt), or 1 (enters on the 1pt). These positions are in ascending order of strength from White's perspective, and descending order from Blue's perspective.
There are two relevant cube placements. Either the cube is still centered (see the first set of brackets in each row) or Blue owns the cube (the second brackets). The first group has evaluations; the second group has rollout results.
Evaluations (XGR++)
........If White F ...[D 1495–553] ....[X 1058+437]
........If White 5.....[D 1103–351] ....[R 1104–227]
........If White 2.....[D 1003–228] ....[R 1005–145]
........If White 1.......[D 770–37] ........[X 779–13]ROLLOUTS (moves 3ply, cube decisions XGR)
........If White F ................................[X 1032+400] 5
........If White 5 .................................[R 1055–140] 5
........If White 2 ...................................[R 953–119] 5
........If White 1 ......[N 705–5] 25 .......[X 754–43] 5Cube action letter: D = Double, N = No double, R = Redouble, X = no redouble.
Equities are in thousandths of a point and if the cube is given (D or R) then a take is assumed (pass = 1000 always, too obvious to list).
After the minus sign is the size of the error if Blue chooses the opposite/wrong action (e.g., N or R in the fourth row). [Exception: If too good to double, the error for doubling is already implied by the difference from 1000; instead add the + number to get the additional information of the terribletake equity.]
Explanation of nacubracsIf the number to the left of the minus sign is close to 1000, or if the number on the right of the minus sign is small, a close cube decision is involved.
As you can see in the chart above, XG's evaluation is optimistic for Blue (1.058 vs 1.032, 1.104 vs 1.055, 1.005 vs .953, .770 vs .705, and .779 vs .754) for all five of the cube decisions I rolled out. [For the fourth position, this optimism causes XG to double early.]
For further clarification, row by row: (1) The X being over 1000 tells you Blue is too good to redouble. (2) The D or R over 1000 tells you it's double/pass or redouble/pass. (3) The D or R under 1000 tells you it's double/take or redouble/take. (4) The N and X tells you the position is not good enough for Blue to double or redouble (as the number is under 1000).
Detailed rollout results are shown below.
Nack
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 176Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 138
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=baABDAABbBbcAbcA:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10 42P43S65R21P41K161UF52S41U43K3141L65S64H41U
33D52R62R31H61U62P61D32442H41UC41K1F43H3151FR
[X 1032+400] "<=5
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 71.71% (G:43.37% B:2.86%) 71.48% (G:43.78% B:3.05%) Opponent Winning Chances: 28.29% (G:5.79% B:0.33%) 28.52% (G:5.93% B:0.38%) Cubeless Equities +0.835 +1.669 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +1.032 ±0.006 (+1.025..+1.038) Redouble/Take: +1.431 (+0.400) ±0.011 (+1.420..+1.443) Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (0.032) Best Cube action: Too good to redouble / Pass Percentage of wrong take needed to make the double decision right: 7.3% Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 92861368
Moves: 3ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 1 hour 56 minutes
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 171Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 138
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=aaABaDAABbBbcAbcA:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10 42P43S65R21P41K161UF52S41U43K3141L65S64H41U
33D52R62R31H61U62P61D32442H41UC41K1F43H31515R
[R 1055–140] "<=5
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 67.46% (G:36.44% B:2.39%) 67.28% (G:36.75% B:2.64%) Opponent Winning Chances: 32.54% (G:7.63% B:0.49%) 32.72% (G:7.72% B:0.49%) Cubeless Equities +0.656 +1.315 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0.860 (0.140) ±0.006 (+0.854..+0.866) Redouble/Take: +1.055 (+0.055) ±0.012 (+1.043..+1.067) Redouble/Pass: +1.000 Best Cube action: Redouble / Pass Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 65904545
Moves: 3ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 3 hours 55 minutes
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 174Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 138
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=aaaABDAABbBbcAbcA:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10 42P43S65R21P41K161UF52S41U43K3141L65S64H41U
33D52R62R31H61U62P61D32442H41UC41K1F43H31512R
[R 953119] "<=5
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 65.85% (G:35.55% B:2.54%) 65.68% (G:36.16% B:2.79%) Opponent Winning Chances: 34.15% (G:8.20% B:0.50%) 34.32% (G:8.39% B:0.51%) Cubeless Equities +0.611 +1.228 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0.833 (0.119) ±0.007 (+0.827..+0.840) Redouble/Take: +0.953 ±0.012 (+0.941..+0.965) Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.047) Best Cube action: Redouble / Take Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 65904545
Moves: 3ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 1 hour 53 minutes
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 175Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 138
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=abABDAABbBbcAbcA:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10 42P43S65R21P41K161UF52S41U43K3141L65S64H41U
33D52R62R31H61U62P61D32442H41U41K1F43H31511C
[N 705–5] "<=25
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 64.05% (G:27.62% B:2.99%) 63.88% (G:27.68% B:3.22%) Opponent Winning Chances: 35.95% (G:8.31% B:0.44%) 36.12% (G:8.54% B:0.46%) Cubeless Equities +0.500 +0.993 Cubeful Equities No double: +0.705 ±0.004 (+0.702..+0.709) Double/Take: +0.701 (0.005) ±0.005 (+0.695..+0.706) Double/Pass: +1.000 (+0.295) Best Cube action: No double / Take Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 1.5% Rollout details 25920 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 90634172
Moves: 3ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 91.5% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 13 hours 25 minutes
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 175Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 138
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=abABDAABbBbcAbcA:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10 42P43S65R21P41K161UF52S41U43K3141L65S64H41U
33D52R62R31H61U62P61D32442H41UC41K1F43H31511R
[X 754–43] "<=5
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 64.02% (G:27.70% B:3.04%) 63.88% (G:27.81% B:3.28%) Opponent Winning Chances: 35.98% (G:8.43% B:0.48%) 36.12% (G:8.51% B:0.47%) Cubeless Equities +0.499 +0.997 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0.754 ±0.007 (+0.747..+0.761) Redouble/Take: +0.711 (0.043) ±0.012 (+0.699..+0.722) Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.246) Best Cube action: No redouble / Take Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 12.9% Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 92861368
Moves: 3ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 2 hours 46 minutes The last two diagrams can be viewed sidebyside, if you widen your window.

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