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Two deadlines for end-of-turn?

Posted By: Tom Keith
Date: Monday, 11 January 2010, at 7:40 p.m.

In Response To: NY Ruling Dispute (Perry Gartner)

Maybe there should be two deadlines for "end of turn".

(1) If you seem to complete your play, then touch your dice (but don't pick them up), and opponent rolls, there is no penalty to the fast roller. (His roll doesn't count -- he picks up his dice and waits for his turn.) Your turn is not over and you can change your play if you want.

(2) When you lift both dice, then your turn really is over. You can't make any changes to your play and opponent can roll whenever he is ready.

"Both dice" because that gives a player a safe way to move dice that are in the way -- just move them one at a time. Even if you inadvertently lift a die as you move it, your turn will not be over.

Under the current rule, a few microseconds can make a sharp difference in the ruling.

Messages In This Thread

• NY Ruling Dispute
  Stick -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 7:16 p.m.
  • Some Help
    Stick -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 7:31 p.m.
    • Some Help
      Leonardo Jerkovic -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 8:00 p.m.
      • Some Help
        Leonardo Jerkovic -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 8:01 p.m.
  • NY Ruling Dispute
    Jason Lee -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 7:51 p.m.
  • NY Ruling Dispute
    christian munk-christensen -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 8:04 p.m.
  • NY Ruling Dispute
    Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 8:13 p.m.
  • Does anyone wonder why I basically never will play competitive BG without a clock anymore? *NM*
    neilkaz -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 8:27 p.m.
    • Yes... sometimes I lie awake at night wondering *NM*
      Steve Mellen -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 12:24 a.m.
  • And the ruling was? *NM*
    Bill Riles -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 8:30 p.m.
    • It's in my post of earlier today *NM*
      Perry Gartner -- Tuesday, 12 January 2010, at 12:27 a.m.
  • NY Ruling Dispute
    Bill Davis -- Saturday, 9 January 2010, at 9:10 p.m.
    • NY Ruling Dispute
      Perry Gartner -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 4:16 a.m.
    • NY Ruling Dispute
      Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 5:36 p.m.
  • NY Ruling Dispute
    Tom Keith -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 4:06 a.m.
  • NY Ruling Dispute
    Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 5:16 a.m.
    • NY Ruling Dispute
      Chiva Tafazzoli -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 6:58 a.m.
      • NY Ruling Dispute
        Jason Lee -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 8:44 a.m.
        • NY Ruling Dispute
          Leonardo Jerkovic -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 12:02 p.m.
          • NY Ruling Dispute
            Tom Keith -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 12:51 p.m.
            • NY Ruling Dispute
              Chiva Tafazzoli -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 2:56 p.m.
          • NY Ruling Dispute
            Steve Mellen -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 3:33 p.m.
            • NY Ruling Dispute
              neilkaz -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 4:15 p.m.
              • NY Ruling Dispute
                Tom Keith -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 4:36 p.m.
              • NY Ruling Dispute
                Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 4:53 p.m.
    • NY Ruling Dispute
      Perry Gartner -- Monday, 11 January 2010, at 11:40 a.m.
      • Two deadlines for end-of-turn?
        Tom Keith -- Monday, 11 January 2010, at 7:40 p.m.
        • Two deadlines for end-of-turn?
          Rich Munitz -- Monday, 11 January 2010, at 10:34 p.m.
          • Two deadlines for end-of-turn?
            Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 12 January 2010, at 2:31 a.m.
            • Two deadlines for end-of-turn?
              Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 12 January 2010, at 5:08 a.m.
              • Two deadlines for end-of-turn?
                Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 12 January 2010, at 12:43 p.m.
  • NY Ruling Dispute
    garyo -- Monday, 11 January 2010, at 4:26 a.m.
  • NY Ruling Dispute
    Troy Longman -- Tuesday, 12 January 2010, at 5:55 a.m.