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Teach your children well... (OT)

Posted By: Chuck Bower
Date: Wednesday, 23 April 2008, at 5:04 p.m.

In Response To: Teach your children well... (OT) (Bill Riles)

I agree that global warming has become a political topic and that can be both good and bad. Many people (myself included) are skeptical about anything politicians say, particularly when they are running for office! However, often to get anything done you need to go through the legislative (and executive and judicial) process so important issues shouldn't be banned from political debating. You haven't given specifics about who you believe and don't believe, so the following isn't directed at you. However, it is a common "justification' for ignoring science: Saying that global warming is unrelated to CO2 emission because one doesn't like Al Gore is similar to saying certain works of art are garbage because Hitler and other Nazis had a liking of them. The science (or art) stands on its own.

You did mention something about "educated people" who question GW. I'd like to see (and research) some of those if you'd like to provide names.

Unfortunately, today we have many unscrupulous news agencies (a nice way of saying F---ing liars) who create and propagate unscientific information under the guise of science. A recent (July 2007) article in Scientific American should take the BS out of at least some of that misinformation:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=physical-science-behind-climate-change&colID=1

Unfortunately this link only gives an abstract - they want you to buy the article. Just about every local library carries Scientific American so maybe that's the route to go (although inconvenient -- whoops, I guess I'm not supposed to use that word :).

Here's another scientific article (with a very confusing title -- be forewarned) that also attempts to quell the BS spewed forth by the biased, uneducated:

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11659

Another good overview (which was written over 10 years ago, surprisingly accurate but disappointing because it shows that very little has changed in the meantime, except the price of oil...) is several chapters from Carl Sagan's last book, Billions and Billions. In fact Sagan's PhD thesis was written on the details of greenhouse effect on the planet Venus, so I'd say (particularly on this topic) he has "done his homework".

I'm not sure why you are negative towards compact fluorescent bulbs, which use 1/4 as much power for the equivalent level of light. Is it because of their mercury content?

A bigger (and justified, IMO) target is the conversion of grain to alcohol or diesel for use as fuel, which is inefficient, actually currently uses fossil fuels in its processing, wouldn't be cost effective if not for government subsidies (to the manufacturers -- it's not given directly to farmers, BTW), and diverts an otherwise very useful and necessary item (food) away from its more approrpiate use.

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