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Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!

Posted By: Chuck Bower
Date: Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 9:40 p.m.

In Response To: Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK! (Daniel Murphy)

Well, I really wanted people to show how they would calculate pipcounts in general, not some special case of "very close to the beginning of the game, so...." I didn't think I had to choose a shortcut-proof position for this. I also didn't think I had to choose a position where the pipcount needed to be relevant in actual play (but I made that disclaimer' I guess one or two didn't bother reading it).

I do appreciate the answers, though, particularly from those who went to the trouble to actually explain where they got an otherwise odd looking number like '39', for example.

Messages In This Thread

• Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
  Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 2:06 p.m.
  • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
    Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 2:14 p.m.
    • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
      Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 4:07 p.m.
      • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 4:14 p.m.
  • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
    Stick -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 4:36 p.m.
    • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 4:40 p.m.
    • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
      pontiac -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 5:04 p.m.
      • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
        Stick -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 5:22 p.m.
  • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 5:30 p.m.
    • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
      Gregg Cattanach -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 5:35 p.m.
      • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
        Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 9:25 p.m.
    • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
      Stick -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 5:38 p.m.
      • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
        pontiac -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 6:08 p.m.
        • Kissane's cluster counting
          Dan Pelton -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:26 a.m.
      • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
        Coolrey -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 1:58 p.m.
    • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 6:29 p.m.
    • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
      Petter Bengtsson -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 6:52 p.m.
    • Some thoughts after seeing a few replies
      Coolrey -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 1:55 p.m.
  • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
    Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 5:53 p.m.
    • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
      Coolrey -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 1:49 p.m.
  • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 6:01 p.m.
    • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
      Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 10 September 2008, at 9:24 p.m.
  • practice practice and practice
    alex213 -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 1:24 p.m.
  • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
    Coolrey -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 1:42 p.m.
    • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
      garyo -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:15 p.m.
      • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
        Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:55 p.m.
      • "phonetic memory device" -- please explain *NM*
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 5:20 p.m.
        • "phonetic memory device" -- please explain
          Bob Koca -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:42 p.m.
        • explained
          garyo -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 4:34 a.m.
    • Preparing for the coming age of clocked BG
      Stick -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:41 p.m.
  • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:21 p.m.
    • One more request
      Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:25 p.m.
      • One more request
        Coolrey -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:32 p.m.
        • One more request
          David Rockwell -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:55 p.m.
          • ASL
            Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:44 p.m.
            • ASL
              alex213 -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 5:53 p.m.
            • ASL
              Bob Koca -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:23 p.m.
              • ASL
                Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 7:20 p.m.
                • ASL
                  Mislav Radica -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 1:58 a.m.
            • ASL
              Stick -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:29 p.m.
              • ASL
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:33 p.m.
          • One more request
            Coolrey -- Saturday, 13 September 2008, at 1:21 a.m.
            • help
              pontiac -- Saturday, 13 September 2008, at 11:58 a.m.
              • help
                Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 13 September 2008, at 2:40 p.m.
              • help
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 13 September 2008, at 2:57 p.m.
                • help
                  pontiac -- Saturday, 13 September 2008, at 3:24 p.m.
                  • help
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 13 September 2008, at 3:36 p.m.
      • One more request
        neilkaz -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:48 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Coolrey -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:31 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:39 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      David Rockwell -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:48 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:52 p.m.
      • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
        Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 3:02 p.m.
        • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
          Mislav Radica -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 2:03 a.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 2:59 p.m.
      • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:57 p.m.
        • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
          Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 8:04 p.m.
          • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
            Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 9:40 p.m.
            • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
              Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 3:59 a.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Keene -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 3:18 p.m.
      • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:09 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      rew -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 3:23 p.m.
      • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
        Coolrey -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 3:25 p.m.
      • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 5:07 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 3:56 p.m.
      • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:01 p.m.
      • Naccel
        neilkaz -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:08 p.m.
        • Let's Give Don Sticko a chance *NM*
          Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 5:04 p.m.
        • Naccel
          Stick -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:20 p.m.
          • Naccel
            neilkaz -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:35 p.m.
            • Naccel
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 7:36 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Bob Koca -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:24 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      jdg -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:40 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Bob Koca -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:41 p.m.
      • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:46 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Matt Reklaitis -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 4:47 p.m.
      • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 5:01 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Bill Riles -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 5:17 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Bill Riles -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 5:19 p.m.
    • Blue's position
      Stick -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 6:27 p.m.
    • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
      Mislav Radica -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 1:34 a.m.
      • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 1:36 a.m.
        • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
          Mislav Radica -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 1:41 a.m.
          • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 1:45 a.m.
          • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
            neilkaz -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 2:52 a.m.
            • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 3:38 a.m.
      • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
        neilkaz -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 2:54 a.m.
        • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
          Mike Main -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 2:57 a.m.
          • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
            Mike Main -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 2:59 a.m.
            • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
              neilkaz -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 4:03 a.m.
              • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
                Stick -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 7:08 a.m.
              • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
                Mike Main -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 3:26 p.m.
                • Kangaroo Pip count by Nack Ballard
                  Stick -- Friday, 12 September 2008, at 4:58 p.m.
    • Practice Problem; PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK!
      Daniel Murphy -- Saturday, 13 September 2008, at 9:22 p.m.
  • Pip-counting: Lessons learned!
    Chris Knapp -- Thursday, 11 September 2008, at 7:13 p.m.