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I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta

Posted By: mfic
Date: Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:10 p.m.

In Response To: I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta (garyo)

I strongly agree! The match recording does NOT belong to the Tournament, but rather to the two players involved. They have the right to share it or not. The tournament did not do anything to produce the recording and subsequent analysis.

It would be different if the tournament supplied the equipment and/or recorder to do the match(es), but that has not been the case in my experience.

However, if it is done via closed circuit TV, arranged for by the tournament, then that changes the ownership constituency. Ergo, the two players and the tournament organizer.

_________________patrick (the MFIC)

Messages In This Thread

• I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
  Bill Riles -- Sunday, 3 May 2009, at 11:54 p.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    Bill Riles -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 12:23 a.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 1:20 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        Dan Pelton -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 1:53 a.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:28 a.m.
          • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
            Bill Riles -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:57 a.m.
            • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
              garyo -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 8:29 a.m.
              • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
                Steve Mellen -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:48 a.m.
            • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
              Gregg Cattanach -- Tuesday, 5 May 2009, at 5:31 p.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        Coolrey -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 9:29 a.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          mikeg -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 3:17 p.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          Chris Knapp -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 3:26 p.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      David Rockwell -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 1:48 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:33 a.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          Christian Munk-Christensen -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 9:56 a.m.
          • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:08 a.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    John O'Hagan -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:12 a.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:37 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        Bill Riles -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:39 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        David Rockwell -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:55 a.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          adambulldog -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 3:11 a.m.
          • Waivers and releases
            Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 4:52 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        Coolrey -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 9:40 a.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          Bill Riles -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:07 p.m.
          • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
            Jason Lee -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:17 p.m.
          • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
            Coolrey -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:31 p.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    mikeg -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:29 a.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      garyo -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 8:09 a.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    neilkaz -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 3:50 a.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      rew -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 7:20 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        rew -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 7:21 a.m.
      • ABT rules
        David Rockwell -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 12:40 p.m.
        • ABT rules - not to mention
          garyo -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 4:56 p.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    mfic -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 4:52 a.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    Jason Lee -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 4:56 a.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 4:57 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        Jason Lee -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:00 a.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          garyo -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 8:05 a.m.
          • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
            mfic -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:10 p.m.
            • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
              Bill Riles -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:14 p.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      Coolrey -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 10:02 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:16 a.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 1:54 p.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:14 p.m.
          • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
            mfic -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:03 p.m.
      • People sending / not sending matches
        Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:56 a.m.
        • People sending / not sending matches
          Coolrey -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:23 p.m.
          • People sending / not sending matches
            Bill Riles -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:30 p.m.
          • People sending / not sending matches
            Jason Lee -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:33 p.m.
            • People sending / not sending matches
              Jason Lee -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:35 p.m.
          • People sending / not sending matches
            Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:05 p.m.
            • People sending / not sending matches
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:27 p.m.
  • Things that make you go hmmm...
    rory -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:17 a.m.
    • Not even close to a professional athletic event
      Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:27 a.m.
      • Not even close to a professional athletic event
        rory -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:34 a.m.
        • Not even close to a professional athletic event
          Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:47 a.m.
          • Not even close to a professional athletic event
            Jason Lee -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:54 a.m.
            • This has been coming up in backgammon since 2000 - let's get a rule on the ABT books already
              Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:00 a.m.
          • Not even close to a professional athletic event
            rory -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:00 a.m.
          • Not even close to a professional athletic event
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:04 a.m.
            • Here it is.... Language for all ABT event entry forms
              Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:45 a.m.
              • And... a release from liability....
                Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:53 a.m.
                • And... a release from liability....
                  Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 6 May 2009, at 9:22 p.m.
              • Here it is.... Language for all ABT event entry forms
                Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 6 May 2009, at 9:20 p.m.
          • Not even close to a professional athletic event
            garyo -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 7:58 a.m.
          • Not even close to a professional athletic event
            mikeg -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 2:51 p.m.
        • Not even close to a professional athletic event
          David Rockwell -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:45 a.m.
      • nor do they
        garyo -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 7:55 a.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    garyo -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 7:50 a.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 8:08 a.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      Christian Munk-Christensen -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 8:14 a.m.
      • Psychology - how large is the ELO point reduction?
        Rod -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:36 a.m.
    • damned if you do, damned if you don't
      garyo -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 8:14 a.m.
    • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
      Coolrey -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 9:10 a.m.
      • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
        Chuck Bower -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 11:48 a.m.
        • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
          Coolrey -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 5:07 p.m.
          • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
            Chuck Bower -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:37 p.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 3:17 p.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    Bill Riles -- Monday, 4 May 2009, at 6:03 p.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 5 May 2009, at 2:01 a.m.
  • I'll Kick it Off -- Recording Controversy in Atlanta
    Jason Lee -- Wednesday, 6 May 2009, at 7:53 p.m.