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Controversy in the Chou

Posted By: Perry Gartner
Date: Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 11:07 p.m.

In Response To: Controversy in the Chou (Phil Simborg)

As has been pointed out, there is a difference between tournament and money play in respect to this situation and I have no qualms with your strictly enforcing this rule in a tournament situation.

Matt and you both raised concerns of allowing the hit to stand becoming a precedent. I don't see that as a problem if you were to couple your allowance of the hit with "in the future the rules will govern" and all agree.

What would I do if I were Matt? Matt asks as to what is "fair". The word can be defined as to what is reasonable and impartial or defined as done according to the rules. The definition I would look to would be what is reasonable and impartial. I think there are reasonable arguments for both sides, although knowing the background and playing experiences of the players could persuade me to take one side or the other. I don't see this as a 'must stand on principle' decision.

If I were Matt I would consider as a key factor what impact my decision would have on my future relationship with the players as well as my long term earnings in this chou. Alienating one or more to the extent they won't play for a while or won't listen to Matt's advice as a consequence might hurt more than the money he gives up at the moment.

This line of reasoning might bring Phil to a different conclusion than Matt.

Perry

Messages In This Thread

• Controversy in the Chou
  Phil Simborg -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 4:36 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    dlevy -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 4:40 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      KenB -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 5:16 p.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        Phil Simborg -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 9:38 p.m.
        • Rhyme or Reason
          Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 11:03 p.m.
          • Rhyme or Reason
            Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 4:14 p.m.
        • Controversy in the Chou
          Perry Gartner -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 11:07 p.m.
          • Controversy in the Chou
            Carter Mattig -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:12 a.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Frank_N_Stein -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 8:27 p.m.
          • Controversy in the Chou
            Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:36 a.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:45 a.m.
        • Controversy in the Chou
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 11:21 p.m.
        • Controversy in the Chou
          Jason Lee -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:23 p.m.
          • Yes, I do play for fun.
            Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 7:16 p.m.
            • Yes, I do play for fun.
              Jason Lee -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 11:40 p.m.
              • Yes, I do play for fun.
                Rich Munitz -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 12:37 a.m.
                • Yes, I do play for fun.
                  Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 12:48 a.m.
                  • Yes, I do play for fun.
                    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 1:38 a.m.
                    • Yes, I do play for fun.
                      Phil Simborg -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 2:30 a.m.
                      • Yes, I do play for fun.
                        Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:49 a.m.
                      • What chou talkin bout Philis?
                        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 5:55 a.m.
                        • What chou talkin bout Philis?
                          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 8:29 a.m.
                          • What chou talkin bout Philis?
                            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 3:59 p.m.
                        • Legal plays
                          Gregg Cattanach -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 3:49 p.m.
                          • Legal plays
                            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:18 p.m.
                          • Legal plays
                            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:20 p.m.
                          • Legal plays
                            Chuck Bower -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:36 p.m.
                          • Legal plays
                            Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 3:48 a.m.
                            • Legal plays
                              Frank_N_Stein -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 8:13 p.m.
                              • Legal plays
                                Gregg Cattanach -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 3:20 p.m.
                                • Legal plays
                                  Frank_N_Stein -- Thursday, 1 October 2009, at 5:40 p.m.
                          • Legal plays
                            Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 4:12 a.m.
        • Controversy in the Chou
          Chuck Bower -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:25 p.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        Carter Mattig -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 3:49 a.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 6:51 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 4:58 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 5:38 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 6:18 p.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 7:22 p.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 9:49 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    neilkaz -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 5:43 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 5:57 p.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        neilkaz -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 7:18 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      lenny -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 11:04 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 6:04 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 6:51 p.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 9:54 p.m.
        • Controversy in the Chou
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 2:51 a.m.
          • Controversy in the Chou
            Perry Gartner -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 3:49 a.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:27 a.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Perry Gartner -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:59 p.m.
                • Controversy in the Chou
                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:26 p.m.
                  • Controversy in the Chou
                    Perry Gartner -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:56 p.m.
                    • Controversy in the Chou
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 8:50 a.m.
                      • Controversy in the Chou
                        Phil Simborg -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 12:25 p.m.
                        • Controversy in the Chou
                          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:11 p.m.
                          • Controversy in the Chou
                            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:26 p.m.
                            • Controversy in the Chou
                              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:29 p.m.
                              • Controversy in the Chou
                                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 4:34 p.m.
                                • Controversy in the Chou
                                  David Kettler -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 5:14 p.m.
                • Controversy in the Chou
                  Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 10:11 p.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:30 a.m.
              • Never mind... question answered. *NM*
                Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:32 a.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:30 a.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:29 a.m.
              • This is asinine
                David Rockwell -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:54 a.m.
                • This is asinine
                  rory -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:18 a.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Perry Gartner -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:46 p.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Carter Mattig -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:49 p.m.
          • Controversy in the Chou
            Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:23 a.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:25 a.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:11 a.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 6:04 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Brad Baker -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 7:02 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 7:39 p.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 8:11 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 6:44 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 8:36 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 26 September 2009, at 10:49 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    David Rockwell -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 12:17 a.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      David Rockwell -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 12:30 a.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        Timothy Chow -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 2:06 a.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Seth -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:28 a.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:38 a.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        Frank_N_Stein -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 5:12 a.m.
        • Controversy in the Chou
          Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 4:01 p.m.
          • Controversy in the Chou
            Frank_N_Stein -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 7:47 p.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 9:11 p.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 10:06 p.m.
                • Controversy in the Chou
                  Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 1:08 a.m.
                • Controversy in the Chou
                  Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 1:20 a.m.
                  • Controversy in the Chou
                    Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 1:33 a.m.
                    • Controversy in the Chou
                      Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 3:14 a.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Frank_N_Stein -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 11:18 p.m.
                • Controversy in the Chou
                  Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 12:54 a.m.
                  • Controversy in the Chou
                    Frank_N_Stein -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 2:10 a.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 12:45 a.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Frank_N_Stein -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 2:09 a.m.
              • Controversy in the Chou
                Gregg Cattanach -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 3:27 p.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:04 a.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    rory -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:16 a.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:25 a.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:31 a.m.
      • Controversy in the Chou
        rory -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:45 a.m.
        • Controversy in the Chou
          Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 3:46 p.m.
          • Controversy in the Chou
            Jason Lee -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:21 p.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:37 p.m.
            • Controversy in the Chou
              Carter Mattig -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 5:34 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    rory -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:21 a.m.
    • Controversy in the Chou
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 6:26 a.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Sunday, 27 September 2009, at 4:33 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Sam Pottle -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 3:41 a.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Seth -- Monday, 28 September 2009, at 1:51 p.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Frank_N_Stein -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, at 5:01 a.m.
  • Controversy in the Chou
    Stick -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, at 1:59 a.m.