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Neil's Madison format
Posted By: Chuck Bower In Response To: Neil's Madison format (neilkaz)
Date: Tuesday, 10 August 2010, at 2:24 p.m.
Perhaps things may clarify after 10 rounds. Lets say you have two 9-1's and eight 7-3's. Life is easy. The two 9-1's play until only one has less than 2 losses and he is the winner while the other is second place...
If any issues arise...common sense and fairness must prevail...
We seem to be down to nitpicking (I mean 'I' more than 'we'). Having never been involved in chess where Swiss is common (although I have played many a Swiss Team in Bridge) I continue to have a problem with the fixation among some/many that players should never play against each other twice in the same event.
IMO, the "common sense" solution to your situation above is that the two 9-1 players play EACH OTHER for one round, deciding the winner and (consequently) ending the tournament for everyone. It is clear to me that in your scenario, this happens if and only if the two have never played each other prior (which may actually be impossible because if that were the case they would have played each other in the round before this one).
I've played more than one BG tournament where I played the same person THREE times in the same event (but of course at different levels, such as Main, Cons, LC) and I'm still alive and kicking. It's not the end of the world to play someone more than once.
IMO, there were two weaknesses of the Indy Swiss movement, and one of them is still present in the Wisc(ke)y Swiss movement -- that being the juggling of the format as the event progresses, so maybe this one is inevitable. The other was the length of time (i.e. number of matches) required for the playoffs, which was of course more evident in the Consolation bracket. Holding down the number of rounds to reach a conclusion should, IMO, carry more weight than avoiding the situation where two players compete head-to-head twice.
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