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Rich Munitz and Orrin Hatch

Posted By: Jim Stutz
Date: Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 7:24 a.m.

In Response To: Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA (Rich Munitz)

I read recently that Orrin Hatch, of all people, has come out publicly in support of the proposed mosque near Ground Zero. My thought at the time: I've been reading about this bozo for 35 years and this is the very first time I can recall ever agreeing with ANY position the man has ever supported. I was reminded of this just now when I read Rich Munitz's post, but in this case it's the first time that I can recall DISAGREEING with Rich on any position he has ever supported. IMHO, it's just not right for a seasoned player to use table talk to try to dupe some clueless rube into turning the cube when it's clearly wrong to turn the cube. This isn't "social" gamesmanship - it's bad sportsmanship, period.

Many on this forum seem to agree that an expert should not, for example, sit by silently when his novice opponent is playing on while forgetting to hit his clock (I have been that distracted clock novice, more than once, in my brief ABT experience). As I see it, this "It's OK to double now, my friend" business is proactively dishonest, and is way worse behavior than (for example) silently ignoring a rookie's clock bumbling.

Messages In This Thread

• Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
  Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:12 p.m.
  • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
    Stick -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:22 p.m.
    • You had to be there!!
      Claude Landry -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 9:45 p.m.
      • You had to be there!!
        Seth -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 12:20 a.m.
  • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:32 p.m.
  • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
    neilkaz -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:43 p.m.
    • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
      Stick -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:47 p.m.
    • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:53 p.m.
      • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
        Leonardo Jerkovic -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 6:00 p.m.
        • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
          Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 6:17 p.m.
          • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
            Timothy Chow -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 11:25 p.m.
            • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
              Michael Petch -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 2:11 a.m.
            • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
              Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 3:00 p.m.
              • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
                ah_clem -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 3:37 p.m.
                • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
                  Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 7:00 p.m.
              • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
                joe freedman -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 11:17 p.m.
  • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
    higonefive -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:53 p.m.
  • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
    christian munk-christensen -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 6:28 p.m.
  • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 6:40 p.m.
    • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
      Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 7:11 p.m.
      • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 9:09 p.m.
        • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
          Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 10:07 p.m.
    • Rich Munitz and Orrin Hatch
      Jim Stutz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 7:24 a.m.
      • Rich Munitz and Orrin Hatch
        Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 1:12 p.m.
      • Rich Munitz and Orrin Hatch
        Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 7:13 p.m.
        • for Timothy and Jason
          Jim Stutz -- Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 1:26 a.m.
          • for Timothy and Jason
            carter mattig -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 5:44 a.m.
            • sharks and guppies
              Jim Stutz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 9:09 a.m.
      • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 8:54 p.m.
        • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
          christian munk-christensen -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 9:02 p.m.
          • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
            neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 9:08 p.m.
            • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
              christian munk-christensen -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 9:24 p.m.
              • +1 *NM*
                joe freedman -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 11:01 p.m.
              • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
                neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 11:02 p.m.
          • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
            Jason Lee -- Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 1:20 a.m.
            • +1
              Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 2:28 a.m.
        • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
          Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 9:43 p.m.
          • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
            Jim Stutz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 10:48 p.m.
        • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
          joe freedman -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 11:10 p.m.
        • +1
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 2:29 a.m.
          • Matt, Neil, Curt Cobain, Al Sharpton and Barry Gibb
            Jim Stutz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 8:07 p.m.
            • Matt, Neil, Curt Cobain, Al Sharpton and Barry Gibb
              Bob Koca -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 8:23 p.m.
              • Matt, Neil, Curt Cobain, Al Sharpton and Barry Gibb
                Jim Stutz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 8:30 p.m.
                • Matt, Neil, Curt Cobain, Al Sharpton and Barry Gibb
                  Bob Koca -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 1:35 a.m.
                • Matt, Neil, Curt Cobain, Al Sharpton and Barry Gibb
                  Maik Stiebler -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 12:20 p.m.
            • What you're too dense to realize
              neilkaz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 8:39 p.m.
              • appreciate your (mostly) civil response...
                Jim Stutz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 10:25 p.m.
                • appreciate your (mostly) civil response...
                  neilkaz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 11:01 p.m.
            • Matt, Neil, Curt Cobain, Al Sharpton and Barry Gibb
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 9:15 p.m.
  • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
    Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 2:22 a.m.
  • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
    phil simborg -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 1:53 a.m.
    • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
      Bob Glass -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 2:27 a.m.
    • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
      Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 2:28 a.m.
      • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
        Bob Koca -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 2:30 a.m.
        • Ethics vs. Etiquette? in LA
          Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 3:25 a.m.