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Posted By: Jim Stutz
Date: Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 1:26 a.m.

In Response To: Rich Munitz and Orrin Hatch (Timothy Chow)

Timothy wrote: "Do you really think that the novice had carefully weighed the previous decision, decided that it was D/P and not TG, but would have carefully weighed the current position and then judged it to be TG if it hadn't been for the seasoned player's remark that it was legal to double? That strains credulity."

No, I don't. What I suspect is this: The expert wanted that cube shipped so he could pass and evade the near certain match-losing gammon that had developed. Yes, the novice had tried to double during the previous roll after the cocked die, but it was far from clear, given his play up to that point, that he was composed enough to remember to double at the next legal opportunity. The expert's remark: "Now it's OK to double", was meant to encourage the clearly distracted novice to remember to send that cube. The expert wasn't giving the novice a free lesson on the rules at a critical moment in a live match -- he was leading him down the garden path. I don't know the players and I wasn't there, but I that's the way I see it based on Bill Riles's description of the incident.

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      Stick -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:47 p.m.
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          Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 6:17 p.m.
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            Timothy Chow -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 11:25 p.m.
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              Michael Petch -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 2:11 a.m.
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              Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 3:00 p.m.
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                ah_clem -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 3:37 p.m.
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                  Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 7:00 p.m.
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                joe freedman -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 11:17 p.m.
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    higonefive -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 5:53 p.m.
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    christian munk-christensen -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 6:28 p.m.
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    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 6:40 p.m.
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      Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 7:11 p.m.
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        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 9:09 p.m.
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          Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 10:07 p.m.
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      Jim Stutz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 7:24 a.m.
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        Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 1:12 p.m.
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        Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 7:13 p.m.
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          Jim Stutz -- Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 1:26 a.m.
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            carter mattig -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 5:44 a.m.
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              Jim Stutz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 9:09 a.m.
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        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 8:54 p.m.
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          christian munk-christensen -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 9:02 p.m.
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            neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 9:08 p.m.
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              christian munk-christensen -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 9:24 p.m.
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                joe freedman -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 11:01 p.m.
              • It seems some people just can't keep politics out of this forum
                neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 11:02 p.m.
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            Jason Lee -- Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 1:20 a.m.
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              Casper van der Tak -- Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 2:28 a.m.
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          Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 9:43 p.m.
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            Jim Stutz -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 10:48 p.m.
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          joe freedman -- Tuesday, 7 December 2010, at 11:10 p.m.
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          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 8 December 2010, at 2:29 a.m.
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              Bob Koca -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 8:23 p.m.
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              neilkaz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 8:39 p.m.
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                Jim Stutz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 10:25 p.m.
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                  neilkaz -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 11:01 p.m.
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              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 9 December 2010, at 9:15 p.m.
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    phil simborg -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 1:53 a.m.
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      Bob Glass -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 2:27 a.m.
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      Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 2:28 a.m.
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        Bob Koca -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 2:30 a.m.
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          Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 10 December 2010, at 3:25 a.m.