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Advanced Backgammon #155 -- Rollout and Variants

Posted By: Igor
Date: Wednesday, 11 June 2014, at 10:13 p.m.

In Response To: Advanced Backgammon #155 (Igor)

Neil, Stick, and Dmitriy already explained what is going on. This is an excellent illustration of O'Hagan's rule in action. Any 6 by blue is a market loser, while there are two anti jockers in 44 and 33. The difference is 9 -- just enough for a double. Actually, you also need to look how the remaining rolls play to make sure you at least "break even" in those. We have two bad rolls that bury our spares deep -- 54 and 53 -- and three good rolls that don't break the prime -- 31, 21, and 11. So, we are doing OK on average in the non-jocker rolls and can double.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 103
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 108
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-bBBBBCB-----------cccbbB-:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 61.08% (G:12.58% B:0.46%) 61.40% (G:12.45% B:0.51%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 38.92% (G:8.61% B:0.34%) 38.60% (G:8.77% B:0.36%)
Cubeless Equities +0.262 +0.533
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.253 (-0.019)±0.004 (+0.250..+0.257)
Double/Take:+0.272±0.006 (+0.266..+0.279)
Double/Pass:+1.000 (+0.728)
Best Cube action: Double / Take
Rollout details
2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 1405227
Moves: 4-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller+
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 24 minutes 44 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

Move our spare to the 5pt and instead of three good non-escaping rolls we are left with only one -- 21. We still have 54 and 53 and hence the non-jocker rolls are not quite in our favor. We are just short of a double.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 103
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 107
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-bBBBCBB-----------cccbbB-:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 59.29% (G:12.14% B:0.44%) 59.43% (G:12.05% B:0.44%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 40.71% (G:9.00% B:0.34%) 40.57% (G:9.21% B:0.36%)
Cubeless Equities +0.218 +0.436
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.183±0.006 (+0.177..+0.189)
Double/Take:+0.135 (-0.048)±0.010 (+0.125..+0.145)
Double/Pass:+1.000 (+0.817)
Best Cube action: No double / Take
Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 5.2%
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 15529142
Moves: 4-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller+
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 13 minutes 08 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

Naturally, with such a marginal double in the OP it's not a redouble.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 103
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 108
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-bBBBBCB-----------cccbbB-:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 60.90% (G:12.96% B:0.48%) 61.44% (G:12.57% B:0.48%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 39.10% (G:8.75% B:0.36%) 38.56% (G:8.74% B:0.35%)
Cubeless Equities +0.261 +0.537
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0.404±0.004 (+0.400..+0.408)
Redouble/Take:+0.275 (-0.129)±0.009 (+0.266..+0.285)
Redouble/Pass:+1.000 (+0.596)
Best Cube action: No redouble / Take
Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 15.1%
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 15529142
Moves: 4-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller+
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 19 minutes 54 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

If we have more pips to spare before breaking our full prime, white will find it difficult to take.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 103
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 115
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-bBBBBBB-----A-----cccbbB-:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 73.19% (G:14.95% B:0.57%) 73.32% (G:15.18% B:0.60%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 26.81% (G:5.24% B:0.24%) 26.68% (G:5.26% B:0.22%)
Cubeless Equities +0.564 +1.139
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.663 (-0.287)±0.007 (+0.656..+0.670)
Double/Take:+0.950±0.009 (+0.941..+0.959)
Double/Pass:+1.000 (+0.050)
Best Cube action: Double / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 15529142
Moves: 4-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller+
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 13 minutes 34 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 103
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 116
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-bBBBBBB------A----cccbbB-:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 74.97% (G:15.73% B:0.63%) 75.22% (G:15.75% B:0.68%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 25.03% (G:4.69% B:0.21%) 24.78% (G:4.70% B:0.20%)
Cubeless Equities +0.614 +1.239
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.731 (-0.269)±0.006 (+0.725..+0.737)
Double/Take:+1.064 (+0.064)±0.008 (+1.056..+1.072)
Double/Pass:+1.000
Best Cube action: Double / Pass
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 15529142
Moves: 4-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller+
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 13 minutes 42 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

Finally, here is the position from Backgammon Boot Camp that Tim mentioned. Due to deeper white spares placement we don't really have bad non-jocker rolls that place our spares into worse spots than white's. It is a very strong double now





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 97
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 108
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-bBBBBCB-----------bbcccB-:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 69.99% (G:15.47% B:0.60%) 70.13% (G:15.78% B:0.65%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 30.01% (G:5.49% B:0.21%) 29.87% (G:5.58% B:0.20%)
Cubeless Equities +0.504 +1.018
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.564 (-0.241)±0.005 (+0.559..+0.569)
Double/Take:+0.805±0.009 (+0.796..+0.815)
Double/Pass:+1.000 (+0.195)
Best Cube action: Double / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 16811921
Moves: 4-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller+
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 11 minutes 15 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

as well as a redouble





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 97
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 108
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-bBBBBCB-----------bbcccB-:1:1:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 69.65% (G:16.10% B:0.65%) 70.13% (G:15.78% B:0.65%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 30.35% (G:5.62% B:0.22%) 29.87% (G:5.58% B:0.20%)
Cubeless Equities +0.502 +1.018
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0.676 (-0.129)±0.005 (+0.671..+0.681)
Redouble/Take:+0.805±0.009 (+0.796..+0.815)
Redouble/Pass:+1.000 (+0.195)
Best Cube action: Redouble / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 16811921
Moves: 4-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller+
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 18 minutes 42 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

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