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Weak v. Strong revisited

Posted By: Coolrey
Date: Monday, 1 December 2008, at 3:45 p.m.

As the weaker player this morning against Gnu, I purposely waited to redouble until now. I missed, Gnu tossed 66, I missed w/ 53 and got backgammoned for the match on 4.

Gnu was critical of my redouble at first and as so often happens punished me mercilessly for having done so. Not many humans woulda taken this redouble.

Earlier I had 28 shots at two blots and waited, knowing my expert opponent would take instantly. An example of choosing whom you double, because most humans would have been tested by a redouble by me OTB.

What is the proper cube action?

The score (after 1 game) is: gnubg 0, Ray 1 (match to 11 points)

Move number 51: Ray on roll, cube decision?

gnubg	37
Ray	122
Position ID: PQEAIHbbgEBEAA Match ID: UQlgAQAACAAA

• Ray doubles

Alert: double decision marked very bad

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless MWC		59.26%	(Money: +0.419)
Cubeful equities:
1.	Double, take	64.25%
2.	Double, pass	65.17%	0.92%
3.	No double	63.69%	-0.56%
Proper cube action:		Redouble, take
Rollout details
Win W g W bg   Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player Ray owns 2-cube 0.738 0.000 0.000 - 0.262 0.051 0.005 59.26% 63.69% Standard error 0.006 0.000 0.000 - 0.006 0.002 0.002 0.13% 0.32% Player gnubg owns 4-cube 0.790 0.000 0.000 - 0.210 0.057 0.008 66.14% 64.25% Standard error 0.007 0.000 0.000 - 0.007 0.004 0.003 0.29% 0.45%
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Messages In This Thread

• Weak v. Strong revisited
  Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 3:45 p.m.
  • Weak v. Strong revisited
    neilkaz -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:16 p.m.
    • Weak v. Strong revisited
      Stick -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:32 p.m.
    • Weak v. Strong revisited
      Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:35 p.m.
      • Weak v. Strong revisited
        Stick -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:38 p.m.
        • Weak v. Strong revisited
          Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 8:28 p.m.
      • Longer rollout didn't take long
        neilkaz -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:55 p.m.
        • I now see that you rolled 53 on your 2nd turn
          neilkaz -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 5:03 p.m.
          • I now see that you rolled 53 on your 2nd turn
            Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 8:35 p.m.
        • Longer rollout didn't take long
          Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 8:33 p.m.
    • non-entering 2s
      garyo -- Tuesday, 2 December 2008, at 2:17 a.m.
      • non-entering 2s
        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 2 December 2008, at 4:06 p.m.
  • Weak v. Strong revisited
    Keene -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:19 p.m.
    • Weak v. Strong revisited
      Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:31 p.m.
  • Weak v. Strong revisited
    Keene -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:24 p.m.
  • Weak v. Strong revisited
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:39 p.m.
  • Weak v. Strong revisited
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 4:44 p.m.
  • What num,ber did you miss the initail shot with ?
    neilkaz -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 5:01 p.m.
    • What num,ber did you miss the initail shot with ?
      Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 8:37 p.m.
      • What number did you miss the initail shot with ?
        Stick -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 8:38 p.m.
        • What number did you miss the initail shot with ?
          Keene -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 9:06 p.m.
          • What number did you miss the initail shot with ?
            Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 9:13 p.m.
            • What number did you miss the initail shot with ?
              Keene -- Tuesday, 2 December 2008, at 3:33 a.m.
              • What number did you miss the initail shot with ?
                Coolrey -- Tuesday, 2 December 2008, at 2:17 p.m.
              • What number did you miss the initail shot with ?
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 2 December 2008, at 3:23 p.m.
        • What number did you miss the initail shot with ?
          neilkaz -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 9:10 p.m.
          • ditto (nm) *NM*
            Coolrey -- Monday, 1 December 2008, at 9:22 p.m.
  • Weak v. Strong revisited
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 2 December 2008, at 12:17 a.m.