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54 - RO

Posted By: smcrtorchs
Date: Saturday, 1 June 2013, at 12:03 p.m.

In Response To: 54 - RO (Chuck Bower)

I wanted a quick indication (360 games full RO) on the equity difference, if we change the factors you mentioned. Fwiw here it is.

Blue has worse timing and is more hemmed in

The score (after 0 games) is: Bot 0, Boo 0 (match to 7 points)

Move number 3: Boo to play 45

Bot	126
Boo	140
Position ID: uM0dQBDMzoYBGA Match ID: cAn2AAAAAAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/8 6/2*	-0.457
			0.379 0.128 0.004 - 0.621 0.188 0.021 -0.312 -0.457 0.003 0.002 0.000 - 0.003 0.002 0.006 0.007 0.015
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 679498996 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	9/5 9/4	-0.466 ( -0.009)
			0.372 0.114 0.008 - 0.628 0.164 0.012 -0.317 -0.466 0.003 0.003 0.004 - 0.003 0.002 0.004 0.007 0.017
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 679498996 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	2	23/18 6/2*	-0.184 ( +0.273)
			0.459 0.163 0.006 - 0.541 0.225 0.012
	4	2	23/14	-0.335 ( +0.122)
			0.430 0.105 0.004 - 0.570 0.191 0.006
	5	2	8/3 6/2*	-0.540 ( -0.082)
			0.358 0.126 0.003 - 0.642 0.211 0.012
	6	2	13/9 13/8	-0.560 ( -0.103)
			0.344 0.075 0.001 - 0.656 0.117 0.004
	7	0	23/18 9/5	-0.549 ( -0.092)
			0.384 0.123 0.004 - 0.616 0.286 0.016
	8	0	9/4 6/2*	-0.555 ( -0.098)
			0.365 0.132 0.004 - 0.635 0.243 0.021
	9	0	9/4 8/4	-0.595 ( -0.137)
			0.351 0.098 0.002 - 0.649 0.201 0.012
	10	0	9/5 6/1	-0.678 ( -0.220)
			0.324 0.093 0.001 - 0.676 0.174 0.007

(23/18 6/2* and 23/14 are better moves here, but I did not roll them out and focused on 9/5 9/4 & 13/8 6/2*)

Blue's timing is even worse

The score (after 0 games) is: Bot 0, Boo 0 (match to 7 points)

Move number 3: Boo to play 45

Bot	126
Boo	142
Position ID: uM0dQBDMzoYBMA Match ID: cAn2AAAAAAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/8 6/2*	-0.439
			0.383 0.134 0.004 - 0.617 0.208 0.021 -0.324 -0.439 0.003 0.002 0.001 - 0.003 0.002 0.003 0.007 0.016
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 680143249 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	9/5 9/4	-0.527 ( -0.088)
			0.368 0.113 0.006 - 0.632 0.199 0.017 -0.366 -0.527 0.003 0.002 0.002 - 0.003 0.004 0.001 0.007 0.017
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 680143249 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	2	9/4 6/2*	-0.516 ( -0.077)
			0.381 0.144 0.005 - 0.619 0.259 0.032
	4	2	8/3 6/2*	-0.578 ( -0.139)
			0.362 0.133 0.004 - 0.638 0.240 0.024
	5	2	13/9 13/8	-0.599 ( -0.160)
			0.344 0.080 0.002 - 0.656 0.151 0.009
	6	2	9/4 8/4	-0.656 ( -0.217)
			0.351 0.102 0.003 - 0.649 0.226 0.023
	7	2	9/5 6/1	-0.822 ( -0.383)
			0.315 0.094 0.002 - 0.685 0.217 0.018
	8	0	8/4 8/3	-0.806 ( -0.367)
			0.320 0.084 0.002 - 0.680 0.212 0.016
	9	0	13/4	-0.848 ( -0.410)
			0.325 0.088 0.002 - 0.675 0.243 0.024
	10	0	13/8 9/5	-0.918 ( -0.479)
			0.308 0.087 0.002 - 0.692 0.237 0.022

Blue no longer covers the 7 point with 13

The score (after 0 games) is: Bot 0, Boo 0 (match to 7 points)

Move number 3: Boo to play 45

Bot	126
Boo	140
Position ID: uM0dQBDMzgYDDA Match ID: cAn2AAAAAAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	14/9 6/2*	-0.363
			0.399 0.124 0.003 - 0.601 0.137 0.007 -0.221 -0.363 0.003 0.002 0.000 - 0.003 0.003 0.001 0.007 0.016
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 679571615 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	9/5 9/4	-0.390 ( -0.027)
			0.394 0.108 0.005 - 0.606 0.126 0.006 -0.233 -0.390 0.003 0.003 0.002 - 0.003 0.004 0.001 0.008 0.018
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 679571615 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	2	14/5	-0.380 ( -0.017)
			0.387 0.088 0.002 - 0.613 0.103 0.003
	4	2	9/4 6/2*	-0.477 ( -0.114)
			0.385 0.126 0.003 - 0.615 0.207 0.011
	5	2	8/3 6/2*	-0.482 ( -0.119)
			0.374 0.118 0.003 - 0.626 0.183 0.009
	6	2	14/10 14/9	-0.486 ( -0.123)
			0.363 0.071 0.001 - 0.637 0.106 0.003
	7	2	9/4 8/4	-0.511 ( -0.148)
			0.373 0.098 0.002 - 0.627 0.169 0.007
	8	2	9/5 6/1	-0.551 ( -0.188)
			0.351 0.083 0.002 - 0.649 0.137 0.004
	9	2	22/13	-0.553 ( -0.190)
			0.378 0.094 0.003 - 0.622 0.239 0.009
	10	2	8/4 8/3	-0.560 ( -0.196)
			0.348 0.079 0.002 - 0.652 0.132 0.005

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  smcrtorchs -- Thursday, 30 May 2013, at 9:02 a.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 30 May 2013, at 4:39 p.m.
  • 54
    lucky -- Friday, 31 May 2013, at 8:21 a.m.
  • 54 - RO
    smcrtorchs -- Friday, 31 May 2013, at 2:47 p.m.
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      Chuck Bower -- Friday, 31 May 2013, at 4:53 p.m.
      • 54 - RO
        smcrtorchs -- Saturday, 1 June 2013, at 12:03 p.m.
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          Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 2 June 2013, at 8:01 p.m.
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            smcrtorchs -- Sunday, 2 June 2013, at 11:35 p.m.