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Unequal skill RO is very interesting

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 4:36 p.m.

In Response To: After 15k not completely stat sig, but time to move on to other stuff (neilkaz)

What is implied here, is what I thought and that is to complicate vs weaker opps. We can't be sure what mistakes 0 ply is making here that 2 ply doesn't, but we are certainly sure that 2 ply plays better than 0 ply so we can expect that what is shown here is a decent appoximation of real life.

With unequal skill, slotting sure seems to win more games, which is some of the reason it does lots better cubefully. I also suspect the 0 ply is making more cube errors from here than 2 ply....hmmm wouldn't we expect that in real life if one player were about 100 elo stronger than his opp?

The score (after 0 games) is: GNU_bg 0, user 0

Move number 4: user to play 12

GNU_bg	161
user	167
Position ID: 4PPgASjgc/ABMA Match ID: cIkIAAAAAAAA

• user moves 24/21

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.052)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/11 6/5	-0.005
			0.486 0.127 0.005 - 0.514 0.164 0.012 -0.071 -0.005 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.002 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			14204 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 840370571 and quasi-random dice
			Player 0:
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Player 1:
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	2	R	24/21	-0.057 ( -0.052)
			0.478 0.111 0.005 - 0.522 0.141 0.006 -0.075 -0.057 0.000 0.000 0.000 - 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.001 0.003
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			14209 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 840370571 and quasi-random dice
			Player 0:
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Player 1:
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	2	13/10	-0.150 ( -0.145)
			0.461 0.118 0.004 - 0.539 0.154 0.007
	4	2	24/23 13/11	-0.153 ( -0.148)
			0.463 0.115 0.003 - 0.537 0.155 0.005
	5	2	24/23 24/22	-0.173 ( -0.168)
			0.459 0.105 0.003 - 0.541 0.153 0.004

Messages In This Thread

• 51S-21 4 ply XG RO so far
  neilkaz -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 9:43 p.m.
  • 51S-21 4 ply XG RO so far
    Stick -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 10:19 p.m.
    • 51S-21 4 ply XG RO so far
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 31 December 2009, at 10:32 p.m.
  • After ~13,000
    neilkaz -- Friday, 1 January 2010, at 5:55 p.m.
  • After 15k not completely stat sig, but time to move on to other stuff
    neilkaz -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 1:47 a.m.
    • After 15k not completely stat sig, but time to move on to other stuff
      David Rockwell -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 1:49 a.m.
    • Unequal skill RO is very interesting
      neilkaz -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 4:36 p.m.
      • Unequal skill RO is very interesting
        Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 4:51 p.m.
      • Unequal skill RO is very interesting
        Bob Koca -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 6:05 p.m.
        • Unequal skill RO is very interesting
          neilkaz -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 7:53 p.m.
          • Unequal skill RO is very interesting
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 10:36 p.m.
      • Unequal skill RO is very interesting
        Daniel Murphy -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 11:27 p.m.
        • Unequal skill RO is very interesting
          Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 3 January 2010, at 1:24 a.m.
  • 51S-21 4 ply XG RO so far
    Nack Ballard -- Saturday, 2 January 2010, at 5:06 a.m.