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XG 4-ply RO 21S-63 just finished

Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Sunday, 2 May 2010, at 7:16 p.m.

In Response To: XG 4-ply RO 21S-63 just finished (neilkaz)

Thanks, Chase and Neil, for the new rollouts. Here is data for 21S-63:

Snowie .. [S R3 U29 X54] 31k 20kU 5k
GnuBG .. [S R5 X53] 46k 5kX, d[S R2.2] 10k, s[R S0.3] 15k
XG 3-ply [S R1] 82k, s[R=S] 10k
XG 4-ply [S R2] 46k

Nactation key: S = Split (24/18 13/10), R = Run (24/15), U = Up (24/21 24/18), and X = 24/21 8/2*). Error sizes of plays are in thousandths. If there is a "d" before the brackets, it means DMP, or if there is an "s" it means GS; otherwise assume money. The number of trials (in thousands, rounded down) appears after the brackets.

For example, "d[S R2.2] 10k" means that at DMP the best play is S, and R is -.0022 after 10000+ trials.

Hats off to Xavier for all his improvements to XG. I see that his latest version (1.14) is displaying the seed number in the output even when it is randomly generated.

I'm still unclear where these seed numbers are reproducible. That is, if you re-roll a position out with the identical seed number, will/should you get the identical result, as you will/should with GnuBG? Xavier?

Nack

Messages In This Thread

• 21S-63 Rollouts?
  Chase -- Sunday, 25 April 2010, at 9:01 a.m.
  • 21S-63 Rollouts?
    Stick -- Sunday, 25 April 2010, at 11:39 a.m.
    • 21S-63 Rollouts?
      Chase -- Sunday, 25 April 2010, at 4:07 p.m.
      • 21S-63 Rollouts?
        Stick -- Monday, 26 April 2010, at 1:21 a.m.
        • 21S-63 Rollouts?
          Timothy Chow -- Monday, 26 April 2010, at 1:44 a.m.
          • 21S-63 Rollouts?
            Stick -- Monday, 26 April 2010, at 1:49 a.m.
            • 21S-63 Rollouts?
              David Rockwell -- Monday, 26 April 2010, at 1:00 p.m.
    • 21S-63 Rollouts?
      Timothy Chow -- Sunday, 25 April 2010, at 5:56 p.m.
  • 21S-63 Rollouts?
    Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 25 April 2010, at 8:04 p.m.
    • I'll do XG 3-ply RO for 21S-63 *NM*
      Chase -- Sunday, 25 April 2010, at 8:12 p.m.
  • XG 4 ply is tied after 11,000
    neilkaz -- Thursday, 29 April 2010, at 12:43 a.m.
  • XG 3-ply RO 21S-63
    Chase -- Sunday, 2 May 2010, at 8:46 a.m.
    • XG 4-ply RO 21S-63 just finished
      neilkaz -- Sunday, 2 May 2010, at 2:30 p.m.
      • XG 4-ply RO 21S-63 just finished
        Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 2 May 2010, at 7:16 p.m.
        • Random seeds may not be random anymore
          Chase -- Sunday, 2 May 2010, at 10:16 p.m.
          • Random seeds may not be random anymore
            Stick -- Sunday, 2 May 2010, at 10:48 p.m.
            • Random seeds may not be random anymore
              Chase -- Monday, 3 May 2010, at 1:02 a.m.
              • Random seeds may not be random anymore
                eXtreme Gammon -- Monday, 3 May 2010, at 1:27 a.m.
          • Random seeds may not be random anymore
            eXtreme Gammon -- Monday, 3 May 2010, at 1:19 a.m.
        • How the new Random Seed works
          eXtreme Gammon -- Monday, 3 May 2010, at 1:09 a.m.
          • How the new Random Seed works
            Chase -- Monday, 3 May 2010, at 1:23 a.m.
            • How the new Random Seed works
              Leonardo Jerkovic -- Monday, 3 May 2010, at 4:25 a.m.
          • How the new Random Seed works
            mtuhtan -- Monday, 3 May 2010, at 5:31 a.m.
            • How the new Random Seed works
              Neil Robins -- Monday, 3 May 2010, at 12:06 p.m.